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Actually, if you do a bit of research, people have put together some pretty extensive zombie disaster plans.
Me? I’m going to gather up all the essentials (some clothing, water, etc), grab my rifle, and get to the nearest Walmart/Homedepot type place I can.
The important part about the place you hold up is this:
1) Space
2) Accessible Roof
3) Defendable/Blockable Entrances
Because once you and your loved ones get there, you board the place up like nobodies business, and then concrete the walls in. Once’s that’d done you get people on watch duties and trained how to use weapons. After that, the rest of the group goes into the garden center and pulls out all the stupid “pretty” flowers and starts planting food stock growth — everyone is now a vegitarian, tough luck.
The food in the store should last you long enough to get a crop going and then you can collect rainwater from the roof to drink. (Build barrels etc) Human waste will be used in fertilizer along with everything else disposable. It’s recycling to the max.
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No, I haven’t read up on this too much. I’m just prepared!
Jeff, sometimes I wonder if you are real or if you are the robot created by the HelpBot.
i have done a lot of research into zombiesm, i have read the zombie survival guide. your choice is not as good as you may think, such places often have large windows that can easilly be broken through. I am going to go to an abandoned hospital that is near my house, my friends and i have already aranged to meet there in the event of a zombie outbreak, it has a wall around it and multiple stories, (one of the top ten rules of survival is “get up the stairs then destroy them”) it is easily defendable and on top of a hill. we plan on raiding the sorounding areas for food and other such supplies.
like I said keep your guns
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over the hills and thru the woods, to my godfathers house i go. he has a survivalist camp fully stocked (somewhere) with enough weapons and previsions to last 40 people 20 years. he even has medical equipment there. the funny thing is, he is not nutso or anything. he worked closely, but seperately, with military intelligence for several years. when he resigned his position, he took his life savings and built this retreat. makes you wonder what he knows.
Some of them…
Note: already adept at holding off zombies
…wouldn’t be so bad.
At a hospital you’ll get stuck and run out of food. The average human can last 1-2 weeks without food.
I’m going to go to a Hostess Factory. The food will sustain me and it contains enough preservatives to last a lifetime.
Lol, you’d die of vitamin and protein deficiency. Not a bad way to die though — deliciously. :)
The idea isn’t to stay put in the hospital, but rather to remain mobile, raiding for food, growing our own on the roof after a time, maybe eventually becoming self sufficient
But once the zombies catch your smell they’ll surround the building completely — how will you do raids?
by that point we will have stockpiled enough food to last a short seige, we will pick them off one by one till none remain (this tactic would be similar to “pulling” an enemy in a video game)
I would grab my shotgun, put together my AR 15, raid the nearest ammo store, and drive to wyoming, and camp out with my gun-nut uncle. I’d be fine.
The world could end, and as long as the blast didnt reach Wapiti WY, my uncle could survive the rest of his life solo.
Oh, and in case your wondering what I would do for transportation, theres a hummer store across the street from me with a classic army model that I’ve been eyeing since I moved in there.
cars are bad, they attract zombies, they are extremely loud. AR’s are not as effective as one might think, nor is a shotgun actually, the ideal weapon would be a semi automatic carbine firing a single acurate round. keep in mind that zombies feel no pain and that traditional weapons are designed for killing human beings.
Bruce, you’re relying on the notion that, basically, you’ll have enough ammo, stamina and luck in finding food stuffs to hold out.
MY plan, on the other hand, only relies on repelling the dumbest attacking force in world from behind fortified walls. I hope you look good drooling and moaning.
(An AR is a carbine…)
Yeah, and keep in mind, I have a back roads route, with about 2 city miles to get to my uncle, where I encounter about 4 low tech, low pop towns. And Yeah, AR15s arent as effective, but acurate as hell. And yeah, shotguns arent accurate, but close up, a zombie wont have a face to feed itself with. And the humvee my friend, would make its own trail around, or through the zombies. Remember, theoretically they are slow, and dumb. A humvee can make a few speedbumps a minor problem, not to mention you can inflate the tires from within the vehicle.
And yes, an AR15 is a carbine.
Exactly, I’d trade the armor and speed of a car for the extra attention is delivers. Especially in the scenario where zombies are dumb AND slow.
Yeah, and if you know how to get to WY from Cali the way I do, youre not gonna run into many groupings of Zeds, save for the two miles it takes to get out of my town.
Not that I’ve planned for a zombie attack, but I am “Red Dawn” ready.
yeah my mistake about the AR but concider this: once your car runs out of gas you’ve just alerted every zombie in a few mile radias f your location, and you are now stuck on fot with all your gear
get on a bicycle, ditch the car
I am taking back interstates with trucking gas stops littered along the way. Minimal resistance in these places. They are literally a flying J and a McDs.
A bike and my stamina vs. a full tank of gas in a car? I guarantee you the car will win, not to mention that if I’m out gunning the zombies in my ride and I make it somewhere remote, there probably aren’t any Z’s around anyway when it dies.
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Oh, and dont forget, most army Humvees run on either Deisel OR Gasoline. Like I said, my uncle and I have a plan, just in case. Yeah, he is a conservative nutball, and he tries like hell to turn me into one, but I know every mile of how to get to his house, safely and soundly, about 5 different ways.
In any case, that would be my main goal. Get to my uncles house, and of course pick up Chuy on the way.
Btw . . . best post ever.
the bike is silent, the idea is to survive not to fight, stealth is key
Now, if I could, I would get my hands on a Deuce-and-a-half, that would get me over any pile of zombies, and down any cliff. But, theres the WY freak coming out in me.
yeah i’ve been wanting to post this one for a while now, i love thinking about zombies… they consume me (that’s a little zombie pun for you to enjoy)
Go google this:
Exanimus
You’ll love it
and i have read the zombie survival guide, my friend is giving me world war z as soon as he’s done with it
Yeah, I cant wait for them to release it. Oh, and for your right wing viewing pleasure:
Jeff, are you still holding on this statement:
“No, I haven’t read up on this too much. I’m just prepared!”
Yup. I only ever read one survival guide. The rest just comes from my thinking skills and watching zombie movies in passing, like resident evil, etc.
zombie movies are not a good frame of reference except maybe the original “dawn of the dead” on exactly what not to do in the event of a zombie outbreak
That brings up a good question. Would zombies be slow moving, or fast moving?
Dead Rising, video game, followed the premise above outlined. There was a movie before it too, called something like “Rise of the Dead” I think.
See, my theory would be at first, regular speed, but as rigirmortis sets in, the slower they are.
but it doesn’t matter how slow they are, they are tenacious and never get tired, ever
Yes it does, cause if the guy who ran the 100 meter dash was behind you, youd be dead in the water on your piddly bike my man!
well you see the issue there is one of zombie biology (note: i use “the zombie survuval guide as the definative work on zombie cannon) zombies decay slowly taking aprox 5 years to do so, longer if frozen) they are also limited by their lack of fine motor skills, they are incapable of sprinting or running. also they never heal so when muscles tear (as muscles do when used) they don’t heal making them progressively weaker and less apt to movement.
Do only men have a plan here. lol. I dont see any female replies. this is hilarious. I have never thought of this before, and now I think I need to come up with a plan. I dont want to be left unprepared by golly!
Women are, of course, prepared to run away from zombies, look back, trip, fall down, and get eaten. That’s what movies teach me anyway.
Good point. You seem to have put a lot of thought into this.
*leans over* *whispers* freak *leans back*
Haha, just kidding. I took a quiz once, and answered the most cold blooded answers I could think of, when it came to fellow survivers, and such.
I would have survived 1 year.
lol, true. it is up to us, the male survivors to ensure that we keep both genders alive and procreating.
(kuwabara, i added you to my friends list)
Well, if you’d seen the news, scientists can now allow women to asexually reproduce by producing sperm from their bone marrow, if I recall correctly. So technically, men are now not quite as useful.
one thing though. what is so frieghtening about zombies? there greatest strenthi sthey don’t stop, unless you cut their head off. every other trait they have is a weakness. I think if they started to pop up everywhere, they would be more of a nusaince than a threat. your takeing the garbage out and suddenly you see a zombie slowly walking toward you. you calmly go in the garage, get your chainsaw, cut their head off, clean up, and apologize to the neighbors for the noise “sorry for the ruckus Fred, had me one of them **** zombies on my front lawn”
now, on the other hand, what about carnivorous rabbits????
Holy hand grenades will take care of them quite quickly if you just count to 3. Or on 3. Or soemthing…
but they MULTIPLY. and they are so adorable, awww
Hand grenades are ineffective against zombies, the odds that a peice of shrapenel will peirce the brain are low. as long as the brain is alive the zombie can still bite you/ attack you
A nice batch of napalm would work well if they can’t heal. Burn the muscle and they end up immobile mawing jaws. Not such a big deal ;D
carnivorous rabbits???? this is a real threat!
Yeah, but Bruce, you gotta think crowd control. A nice nade in front of a group of advancing zeds, is gonna give you quite a bit more time then with a gun alone, unless of course that gun was a mini-mag. Then, you just point and click, kind of like taking down that 100 sq. feet of forest in preadator.
Anyways, added you to friends Bruce, but that doesnt mean I am gonna have room for you in the vee, but you make it to Wyoming, you got a place to hole up!
Also, AK, youre not taking into the factor sheer nubmers. If a zombie outbreak were to occur, it wouldn’t be thought a zombie problem until it was a threat of epic proportions, already out of control. Notice in most zombie movies, cities are overrun, overnight. Imagine you are the lone poor SOB that was sleeping in your basement, and you come out to find the whole of LA wanting your warm meaty flesh. Regardless of how fast/slow they are, and their weakness, that many mindless, tireless, hungry mouths is gonna be hard to overcome, no matter how well stocked you are.
Although I like the “******* zed on my front lawn” thing, not many people would think as calmly as you, not to mention not many people would believe it was really a zed until too late. And that’s the problem. 99% of the population would either a)not believe it, and fall prey due to unpreparedness b) would be too mentally weak to deal with the trauma of seeing their mother/daughter/son/father trying to eat them, and c) would be too ill prepared to deal with a mass spreading infectious disease. Remeber, to be bitten, is not the only metod of contagion. Blood in water, sexually transmitted, etc. It’s more of a problem than you think.
Not to squash your reply, but, hey, gotta be ready. Right? lol
I have seen many things, it is very hard to startle me. drink only bottled water, always. and trust nothing. and did you see what i said earlier about going to my godfathers. my first reply?
P.S. i will do many things, but have sex with a zombie is pretty low on the list. ha ha
Hey Chuy,
Were those people with baskets lined up at Costco preparing for a zombie invasion or was that you & your family?!!!! lol……
I want to be Vampirella and so…….
hmmm…I think I would had for an Island if at all possible. If I was still in Texas maybe galveston or South Padre. Hopefully we can destroy the bridges to the island after crossing. Either that, or maybe get to a big boat or yaht or something and head out to sea. Can zombies swim/live under water?
Don’t they turn into bats & fly?
that would be awesome…myabe I’ll just opt for becoming a zombie myself
Yes me too….I said I want to be Vampirella….the female zombie & rule…lol..
Bruce…
Your thought on a hand grenade is slightly skewed.
The standard issue hand grenade has a kill radius of 5m.
youve got 15ft of flame, metal, exc, that will, if not damage the brain case, blow the zombies in said radius back to hell.
image, if you will, tiny zombie bits raining from the skys…
sounds rather entertaining.
Someone asked what the danger of zombies are if they are so weak and slow… well to answer the question, its the shear futility of it. Like getting swarmed by 5000 toddlers.
But there is one thing I don’t get about the zombie semantics… They eat you, then you turn into one… but how do you turn into one if they have eaten you? Also the life span of zombies sounds pretty long unless they can continue to eat for the entire 5 years, and supposedly the human population sharply declines as the zombie population increases over a period of a month or less.
betta invited 6 users to read this post 6 years ago.
I believe that George Romero, the guy that invented the modern zombie, said that it is not the actual zombie’s abilities that strike fear into your heart, it is being able to look them in the eyes as they slowly lumber towards you, never stopping. Of course I am paraphraseing but that was the general idea. As for what I would do, if it were to hypthetically happen tomorrow, I would probably be like “Oh, ****” and thats about it. Living on long island, new york, in suburbia my choices are rather limited. If say I had enough warning that this was going to happen I would plot a course for an island that isn’t inhabited and make it a defensive position, I am gifted in the art of fortification, and wait it out. Otherwise I don’t know what i would do, such a bleeding high population concentration where I live, and only one way off the island by land which is to go through a city.
Well, considering that zombies are too dumb to swim, I’d do what I could to get a houseboat, then just drop anchor in a lake somewhere. I’d fish for food, and since i’d be in a lake (freshwater) I’d have all the drinking water i’d need.
Having an M-24 wouldn’t be too bad either. ;)
Oh, and I agree with kuwabara. Best post ever!
5 years?!?! Well ok fine five years. Me and the husband with our Samurai swords, spears, collectors swords,small sharpened blades, you get the idea and a handful of household appliances. We would stay on our third floor flat scavaging out only at night when zombie vision is bad. Mainframe communication a must… at all costs there must be broadband. Food and necessities: we’d keep indoor plants for food, we’d collect medical equipment and medicines, I’d stock up on prop explosives for the worst case scenario of scarin em off. We’d put sharp spikes on the windows fashioned from kitchen items. We’d train the dogs to sniff and point out the zombies on night missions. The dogs would also provide a source of food in dire situations (look no one said surivival was animal friendly). If we were lucky, quick, sneaky, clever, and were well armed with the ability to remove or destroy the brain we’d be set. We’d set up a small band of quit witted sneaky types to weave in and out of the zombies undetected. I know there are flaws in my plan BUT its still a plan.
Every army needs skirmishers.
my army consist of the soulless (lawters) and the mindless (doctors) so, your zombies will fall, and useing the infrastructure you have worked so hard to put in place, i will turn the earth into my platform for the take over of the universe. bwa ha ha ha ha
wait, what…if you choose to fight dirty, then i shall make Heather my official hostage negotiator
little known fact: zombies are great poker players, and have held tournamounts that have lasted right up until a players hand has fallen off. they also enjoy clockmaking, and oddly enough, producing reality television shows.
and because of the massive amount of decay, not to mention their love for compustion engines, the zombies would contribute to global warming.
New Zealand will remain un affected in the event of zombie takeover.
now, with my plan, I promise an end to greenhouse gases and high taxes. I will also implement a time out period for anyone causing trouble, and a standardized “corner” module, to be placed in every home, for those really annoying peeps.
the sky will darken with my wrath!!! watch out!!! run and flee, you pathetic weaklings.
bow down to me, or suffer the fate worse than DEATH!!!
Sanjaya..the zombie warlord.
( wish i knew how to post a picture)
So, destroy or remove the brain, huh? They’re pretty rotten, right? I have nunchaku. Bring on the zombies.
Zombie plan??? I have no plan!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
Akslogistics, can I come with you to your godfather’s safe house in the woods?
This is a really creepy post by the way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT90ke…
Here’s a plan that no-one has mentioned yet. It also works for vampires and wearwolves. Join them. Life can’t be all that bad as a zombie.
I’m already one so I’ll join them and eat you all!
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this reminds me of the movie shawn of the dead
i got a little scared only because i had to walk home after the movie was finished and it was 11 at night
Lol, it would be fun watching you get ripped to shreads :p . Whenever I see a zombie movie I always ask myself “Don’t they have zombie movies in the movieverse? I mean honestly.”
Lol, I’ll get the popcorn and a lawn chair to watch the show.
we could have front row seats!! save a spot for me.
wouldn’t it be great to have an enemy that we are sure is an enemy. blow em away, and no guilty aftertaste. I could dig it, it would be like a real life video game.
and, kitten, i can only take one person with me to “hardplace” (my godfathers name for it) so i am waiting to see who makes the highest bid.
Your making me want to go back and play diablo II and kill a bunch of zombies and undead, and demons and such.
Wow! One person only! Okay, well I better start coming up with a good plan, or saving my pennies!
Hopefully I am somewhere close to you and just tag along….I’m such a goner.
Allie, let’s join forces!!! How much money do you have? Maybe we can build our own safe house!!!
It’s a deal kittenface71 !!!!
I wont be alone…you rock.
Betta:
“Your making me want to go back and play diablo II and kill a bunch of zombies and undead, and demons and such.”
Haha, I’ve spent just about all day today playing diablo II. Every once in a while i just get hooked on it again.
Yeah, I know the feeling. That game is soo addicting.
You know what I notice? Everyone says they will go to a supermarket or walmart type place, right? But wouldn’t that mean that alot of people are going to be there and that means zombies would be there? … Wow, I am thinking way to into this :p
You’re right…lot’s of people would be there. I think I will stash like 5 years worth of MRE’s in my house. Just in case of a zombie attack.
Oh la la, did someone say diablo, to bad I can’t play that on my Vista….booo!
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I still say I’m attacking the zombies with my collection of martial arts weaponry. Who wants to be my camera-person while I take them on with poles of various lengths, nunchaku, and my sensei’s antique katana?
Redstar if you get a tank,I going with you man lol.
You’re funny,we need that in a leader.lol
ok, ive read and caught up n this post.
First: zombies cannot be controlled by anyone ever. there have been recorded incidents of people tring only to be latter consumed by the very zombies they were attempting to control.
Second: Scaring a zombie off is impossible, zombies feel no fear that is why they are so darn terrifying
Third: people are still thinking of zombies as humans,you must not be fooled to fight a zombie as one would a human is wrong, nunchucks and bo staffs and baseball bats and things to that affect are useless against any more than one or two zombies.
Fourth: zombies don’t need oxygen therefore they can go underwater, therefore they don’t even need to swim they can simply go under the water and walk on the bottom.
Fifth: the military is probably your best bet if you live near a base go for it, the wallmart and other such stores are stil bad ideas because they are going to be overrun by other human beings as well as zombies.
(source for this information in general comes from “The Zombie Survival Guide”
Dude. Zombies are pretty clumsy, right? I can take them on.
Well, I’ll find a doorway. One at a time I can take quite a few zombies.
Or I could just go Neo on them. Like that fight scene at the beginning of Matrix 2? That would be hella sweet.
Yeah, except sooner or later said Zombies will come through the door 2 by 2, or find a way in behind you and rip the back of your head of.
Staying stationary is futile. Unless of course you have Blain (Jesse Ventura) and his gun (Minigun)from “Predator” standing next to, or in front of you. In which case, the zombies have no chance. That’s literally a wall of lead.
Another right wing savory bit . . .
[Wiki:Minigun}
I want one.
But seriously, I would just stand in a public place beating the **** out of zombies while everyone else ran away if there was really a zombie attack. I wanna do my part.
Yeah, and how long would you be able to “beat the crap” outta 1 million zombies, remember, YOU need sleep, and rest. THEY do not. YOU have to stop at some point. THEY don’t.
Oh, I would die. But I would look really sexy doing it. Or at least charmingly overwhelmed.
Miniguns use too much ammo. you’re better off carrying a semi auto rather than a full auto
Well, if the only way to kill a zombie is to get at the brain, why wouldn’t a baseball bat work in smashing their heads?
That would have to be one hell of a swing to destroy someone brain. also bats brake
Use nunchaku, as I said. They’re the most effective bonebreaker in terms of non-mechanical weaponry.
but how many good swings can you get off on multiple opponents?
Hatchets are light-weight, and can crack a skull open like a coconut. They don’t often break, and you could wield one in each hand.
Right about the zombies not getting scared… bollucks :) Fair enough they don’t feel fear and you can’t deter them away by firing off warning shots BUT Zombies dont like light or big flashes of light. Altho they can eventually LEARN to deal with the light initially it will bother them. So tactics used in moderation to catch them off guard by lighting a fire or setting of a cherry bomb (flash on a camera, basic prop pyros, a strobe light etc). So yes I can agree that in general as a full army they will not respond to scare tactics… as a skirmisher it will be a very useful diversion tool.
I forgot to mention trapping! Zombie pits and cages might be an ideal way to keep them at bay and unable to infect others.
In the game of zombie take over its always best to be pro-active. You start being all defensive and boarding up your house or huddling low and they’ll come in droves cos lets face it there are a lot of humans!! And for none of them to die in 5 years is a LOT of zombies to deal with.
They won’t understand the logic in small calculated attacks as their prime objective is to feed on living flesh. And the best way for them to do that is in packs like dogs. I still think stealthy tactics will work. As long as there is no central location for the living beings to congregate the zombies will HAVE to hunt in smaller “packs” thus making it easier for us to trap or destroy them.
But thats the thing. Zombies still have a minimum of residual memory. Hence their gathering at places such as malls, hospitals, etc. Their, albiet horribly small, but still existing residual memory draws them to places they went the most when they were alive. A quote from the original “Dawn of The Dead”;
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Francine Parker: They’re still here.
Stephen: They’re after us. They know we’re still in here.
Peter: They’re after the place. They don’t know why, they just remember. Remember that they want to be in here.
Emphasis on Peter’s line. They will gather, and they will congregate. They will overwhlem you. One way or another. And stealth only works until you make a noise.
Actually, you can get off quite a few swings really fast. Try moving your wrist up and down repeatedly. It doesn’t get you tired, and you can repeat it as long as you want. That’s about the amount of effort it takes to break a bone. The only hard part is recovering after you make contact, which I’m still working on, it totally messes up your pattern. But once I have that down, I’ll be golden.
Actually a fullscale zombie outbreak (apocoliptic) would last anywhere between 15-20 years because new zobies are being made all the time.
Actally Kuwabara that is a myth, zombies have no residual memory; if they appear to be congragating in one place it is because they are aware of a human presence in that place.
Sarah: zombies do not hunt in “packs” as that implies some sort of structure, any gathering of zombies is purely coincidental and probably has something to do with them seeking the same prey. tactically zombie traps are a good idea as lng as you remember to kill the zombie inside. the light idea may distract the zombie for a moment but most zombies do not rely on their eyes so much as they relly on their other senses. A blinding flash therefore, may do more harm than good in that you run the risk of blinding yourself and alerting more zombies to your presence.
Hey Bruce, how do you know so much about zombies….?
Hm. Well obviously the flash of light and other bomb-like scare tactics would be used to harm THEM and not myself with every precaution taken to use it in the cleverest and safest way possible (think of the original Dawn of the Dead.. in small numbers they are unable to combat light/bonfires/large flashes of light etc). For instance. In order to give them the SLIP… one could plant some kind of trip wire explosive thus catching the attention of all the zombies momentarily. It’s the art of diversion tho… smoke and mirrors :D Ok. I think alerting the zombies to the area (definitely not my presence due to the fact that I have simply disappeared in my cunning plan) could potentially be brilliant in catching or destroying them.
And about the pack theory. Argh. Semantics… FINE they dont actually all go around hunting together on PURPOSE but as a consequence of who they are and what they want they will inevitably all be hunting together… LIKE a pack of dogs. I was trying to point this out as a potential weakness to exploit. Other senses to exploit. Smell. Freshly butchered household pet… recently deceased non-zombified human. Touch and Taste- encouraging the zombies to congregate in one place that is smeared with warm blood of freshly slaughtered animal/fish. Sound. They can be effectively manipulated with the use of audio equipment. Every sense they rely on can be tricked. They are slow and dumb and easily fooled. Theoretically, with enough careful planning it should be relatively easy to come up with a long-term plan of zombie destruction.
Baiting them might also work. In order to trap a “large” number at a time… (we’re talking large packs of up to 10) live bait might be necessary… so animals would be really useful in that situation. (We could also breed domestic animals especially rabbits… who could potentially survive on rubbish/plants or other dead animals).
But of course the zombies biggest weakness is that they are slow moving. In protective clothing, armed with shivs, knives, swords, and other bladed weapons one could lead them into a trap, round them up. or just slaughter them depending on how much energy the non-zombie had.
if you are using dawn of he dead as a reference tool then you should remember that zombies in that situation don’t want animals only humans (remember the bit wih the dog and the sandwich)
Kittin face i read a lot about them
well it will have to be human bait then …
Bruce is a zombie!!!!!!!!!!!!! run!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to my video games the best weapon against the undead is a club or a mace. Of course those are set in a time when there were not guns. I don’t know too much about guns, but I know that some calibers will tend to go through and through, and some will actually knock you back. I think a good shot gun that would blow someone’s head clean off would be best.
Bruce, you gotta explain to me something. If a zombie rips my head off or tears me limb from limb, how do I then become one? It sounds like they are pretty deadly, but how is there always enough of the eaten left over that they can be reanimated as zombies?
Well spotted Betta… I reckon that the zombies forget after a while that they are feeding. Perhaps they have short attention spans? Which again is why my plans of attack seem good cos zombies don’t spend long thinking about stuff and just going for the nearest living flesh. Which is why even tho some zombie films do not depict zombies eating animals… don’t see why they wouldnt. I could see that they might not eat fish or reptiles with cold blood. Maybe they can’t detect it unless its warm. (Kinda like a python detecting a pulse)
I suppose that will have to do for now. The other thing is this question of whether zombies hunt in packs. A zombie doesn’t hunt or stalk. It just sees and smells what it wants and moves for it. They don’t make strategies. They don’t decide to be in small packs or large packs. I think you would be likely to find them in huge droves, as they would all be moving towards the same target: You!
I think all they do is eat your brains, but…
Huge droves, huh? Ah, so the weapon of choice is clearly homemade bombs. In that case, a huge warehouse/whatever would obviously be the best place to hole up, because you can just build and then chuck exploding things at them till they’re all gone.
Dont forget, that Zombies rely on all senses equally, unlike humans. This does not mean their senses are “higher” than ours, but that they do make better use of them. For example a sound that you might hear, and not pay attention to subconciously, a zed would hear, and investigate. They are attracted to sound.
Betta: If you are ripped limb from limb, and die, you don’t necessarily turn into a zombie. Zombie-ism is derived from a virus, that begins it’s attack on your brain. Therefore, if you are too dismembered, the virus cannot reach the brain, and therefore cannot reanimate you. Although, say three zeds open your stomach while youre alive and feed, then are distracted and leave. Youre passed out, the virus then takes its hold on your body, and you get up, and walk around. In other words, there ISNT always enough left over for reanimation.
As for the “huge drove” theory, zombies are all attracted by the same things. Sounds, smell, warm fresh meat. Theyre gonna all go after the same thing. Therefore they will eventually seem to hunt in packs, when in reality they all “fed at the same resturant, heard about the new place to eat, and all want to try the new cuisine”/
But bombs still work, right?
Yes and no. Theyre gonna knock the zombies back, and down, and might take out a few, but a zombie without legs will crawl to you, a zombie without arms will bite whatever comes near it. You absolutley positively MUST destroy the brain of a zombie. Even a zombies head can continue to try and feed. The brain itself must be destroyed. No ifs ands or buts. SO, a bomb is effective in buying you time, and taking out one or two zombies, with luck. But a pipe bomb thrown at the feet of 5-10 advancing zombies, is gonna knock em down, but not put them out.
I was just figuring if you blew a few limbs off, it would be pretty easy to just walk around with shotguns finishing them off with blasts to the head.
Yeah, but the sound would attract more zeds, though a good idea, just not pratical unless youre in a pinch.
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I hope that when this crazy world does end, that it ends with a zombie outbreak. I want to see just how good we really all do. Plus it woud be a heck of a lot more exciting than just getting nuclear weapons dropped on us.
That would be awesome.
Are zombies intelligent enough to operate machinery/vehicles? Because if not, I’m flying with some chick (or chicks, hubba hubba) to an uninfected island and repopulating the planet singlehandedly.
Okay, but there are two options here:
1) fighting zombies
2) having crazy red hot sex on the beach with a ton of babes
Which do YOU prefer?
it’s almost what we need…If you had the “Zombie virus” to start it all off would you? ALl you would have to do is inject it into a dead person and then run…run like hell.
I wouldn’t. There’s enough death and destruction in the world already.
Godless Heathen, wouldn’t your plan of singlehandedly repopulating the earth cause a genetic bottleneck? Also, I have to say that I would prefer nukes, easier to stay alive after them.
Oh yeah, crap bill. You bringing me down!
I guess I’ll have to share….
Sorry to make you share mate, nothing personal. Just looking out for humanity ;) But hey, I would be willing to help ya :p
Haha, I’m sure you would.
godless coould you not have both? bust up a few zombies to get to the boat you airpane. have an adventure
Good point. So first you save your babes from zombies, then you fight your way to the airport with them, then you fly off with them to get laid till you die of exhaustion.
So whos gonna fly the plane? Where are you going to land? And if your dying from exhaustion your not helping humanity! :p
thats why i sy we get a boat its easier to drive. lol. get a motor one obviously and loads of provisions innit. lol. plus if you find somewhere good you could build houses n stuff but you would need a lot of people and you would only want the strongest n most intelligent n best looking. and of course everyone off help. to join you on the island so the next race is amazingly cool.
Wow, those zombies are persistent, kind of inspirational. He gets knocked down but he gets up again, la-la la-la la-la Laaaa. I don’t know the rest of the words.
OK. so i have asked myself the question of how new zombies are created when they are being consumed by other zombies many times and have come up with the following: when a zombie bites its prey (or bleeds on it or anything like that) that prey immediately becomes infected, within a 24 hour period that person is going to die and going to become a zombie, barring a bullet to the head or otherwise destroying the brain this is 100% true 100% of the time. Now you have five hours before you begin to feel the symptoms of the virus taking affect, in that time you can still run away or fight or whatnot. now concider this: when you are biten isn’t it your natural reaction to start running? also: how often do you meet someone who can actually tear you limb from limb? zombies are limited by the strength of their host and would, therefore, have a hard time of actually ripping a person to shreds, maybe multiple zombies could perform the task but once you are no longer a warm body they lose interest (for that reason zombies don’t eat other zombies).
The desert island plan has merit but what do you plan to do for supplies? what about shelter? and don’t say you will bring enough provisions to last you because that will mean that you have had time already to prepare yourself and stockpile beforehand. Additionally: what are you going to do about fuel? What if the world returns to normal and leaves you behind? your plan hinges on people keeping a cool head in the event of an outbreak which we all know they wont do.
My plan was a sailboat, a stiff weatherly vessel. I know how to survive in the wilderness/ hostile enviornments. Given that I find a good place to moor the vessel I would be set.
But would you really be willing to live on a sailboat for so long? also remember the zombies don’t have to kill you, harsh environment and starvation are just as effective
It wouldn’t really bother me so much, I was bred for the sea. I could live off that vessel indefinately. If the situation where I was got out of hand I would weigh anchor and set sail, granted I had provisions enough and the wind and tide were in my favour. I am a survialist, I know how to survive with the bare minimum. Would you be willing to live abouard for so long?
Pretty good explanation, aside from when you get mauled by a zombie horde. Since zombies are less intelligent and in all other respects (strength, dexterity, speed) equal or less than humans, it should take more than one zombie to bite a single human. I would expect most successful zombie attacks to happen in droves. The other part was that the brain is the part the zombies most want to eat, but then again, it is pretty hard to get open, and they aren’t smart enough to deliberately crack it open.
This brings us to an important part of the zombie response plan. How did the initial outbreak occur? It would most likely have to start with a significant number of people being initially infected for the disease to spread. Should we assume it happened due to contamination of medical supplies at a hospital, or could it be from something in the water? A mutation in the prions that normally cause mad-cow disease (BSE)?
The whole brain thing is simply not true, they crave warm human flesh, brain is acceptable for food but not a target. Outbreaks happen quietly at first, maybe someone somehow becomes infected and dies, that person, before dying , is taken to a hospital full of people perhaps in transit to the morgue or in the morgue itself the corpse will rise biting the surpised doctor or nurse, the infection spreads in this way at first, more than once people have killed a loved one who had somehow become a zombie only to be latter called a murderer and put into prison for the criminally insane. Honestly, who is going to believe you if you kill the first zombie? they are going to tell you that you are insane and lock you away. people only accept that an outbreak has occured until it is already an epidemic. an astute observer may be able to spot signs of a zombie outbreak just watch the news and read the paper, look for people murdering others in violent and brutal ways with their own bare hands, look for murders in the morgue. be prepared for the worst at all times.
What about the military? I’m sure they’d do the bulk of the work anyway, and nobody has even mentioned them. Why not just move to the nearest garrison and bunker down? They’ve got armoured vehicles, trained fighters, supplies, and usually lots of room for refugees. I mean, one LAV-4 (I’m canadian) could pretty much drive around, whacking zeds all day. I’d have a tough time believing that a bunch of zombies could overrun a military base. Because of the fences or walls surrounding the base, they’d all have to come in through the main entrances. Simply set up an MG, or a bit of light armour there and the zeds would never get through.
THe reason nobody has mentioned the military is because in the case of a full scale epidemic, the military will simply not be enough. They too will be overrun with their own army of the undead. In a small scale outbreak, if they even hear about it, they will be deployed in the most secretive of ways, and nobody will ever know there was an outbreak. THey might even take the innocent to conceal the truth about what happened.
The fact is, the military cannot be relied upon. It’s why we have the right to bear arms, and why we need to keep in mind we need to always be ready to defend ourselves, outside of military/police help. Now, I’m not saying the military is incompetent in any way shape or form. I have a great deal of respect for our men and women in the military, and without them, our country would have surely been lying in ruins long ago. But in the case of a full scale “inner” invasion, or mass epidemic, the military knows where to save lives, and cut losses. They will save everyone they “theoretically” can. The naval base here, would probably take in a few thousand people, but there are FAR too many for them to save everyone, especially if they have the living dead, or other forigen invaders banging on their doors/fences. They simply do not have the room, or the ammo, to defend everyone. Logistically it’s impossible.
Now, to consider a neuclar solution is not out of the question. Say LA itself was quarentined, and highly infected. Logistically, there is no saving anyone inside LA, the zed outnumber the living. And they would all eventually die anyway. So, in said case, they could wipe out the entire infection in one fell swoop. THought it’s highly unlikely, they would most probably try to save everyone they could, it’s a much more realistic alternative to breaking the quarentine, and risking national infection.
I just want to re-iterate I was not, never have, and never will bad mouth our military. I have the utmost love and respect for our military (mainly the Marines). I have had friends and family active in the military at one point in my life or another.
I just wanted to say that before anyone took what I said the wrong way.
I, on the other hand, have respect for those who serve in the military, but not the military itself, or any other organization that empowers itself to take lives for that matter.
we are not here to discuss the merits of the military, but what kuabara says is true, when you get down to it the military will only be able to protect a finite number of people, and the protection they give will be great but only if you are one of the fortunate few who make it to the base before everyone else. Most likely, in the event of an outbreak, there will be a full scale war, the military is good at killing humans not zombies. I am talking about a worst case scenario in which the military is either unwilling or unable to save everyone. an important this to remember about zombie outbreaks is that they don’t happen overnight, but it does take some time for people to realize what is actually happening and even more time for those people to gain acceptance from most people, by the time the military is deployed it may be too late.
Yeah, the key thing to remember about the whole situation is:
“Before anyone believes the first guy that makes a claim, before anyone notices a pattern, and before anyone is willing to accept the truth of what is going on during an actual zombie outbreak, it will almost always be too late for them to do anything about it, except run.”
In coralation with others it is a hard decision to place on where the right area would be for defenceive action.
In my opinion many things are needed and not just for zombie attacks but you have to also think about technology being aware of its self! But back to the point; Zombies i believe have one true weakness they cant swim! so if your planing to hold up i would comply on using my plan. Even thought it will take work and money.
1) you must buys at least a year supplie of food, AND know how to live off the land
2) you must have a safe place over water(like a lake or ocean island) to where you may stay for a long time.(so keep it clean of insects and other errors like a broken roof)
3) buy a gun or keep a sword on had(recomended for 1 vs. 1 combat) or if posible a electrical system that just needs simply energy to run like solar or if near a dam hydroelectric power so that supply is cosntent
Out of all defences electricity is a good start its stunning effect will leave them for the picking and it frys brain matter when induced for a long period of time. So don’t just make a simple fence make several complex fencing lines.
Also keep a bike with good tires around when your only option is to run they may never tire but you can still lose them!
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I love this post, squashes left and right.
And from Bruce himself, I quote:
“Fourth: zombies don’t need oxygen therefore they can go underwater, therefore they don’t even need to swim they can simply go under the water and walk on the bottom.”
As for the ‘zombies under water’ thing, you’re right. However, living on a boat would work just fine. They probably won’t swim to well.
However, outside of that, an ocean island would be perfect. While the undead can surely walk the ocean floor, their bodies are still human and will be utterly crushed by the pressures of the deep. They’d never make it to hawaii.
Sweet, Chuy. And seeing as there’s plenty of girls in Hawaii, I now know where I’m going.
I really am oh ever so glad i osted this thread.
I would get out the knifes, and make my way to the closest wal mart with my fam. there would be plenty of food there and there would be weapons and clothes and pillows and sleepin stuff and everything that a person would need. And any zombie that came near me would have they’re head chopped off and into pieces and id use the body to practice throwing knifes at.
haha
But everyone else is going to walmarts as well. So there will be lots of people and zombies. Your knives wont do much.
i live in a small town, and if my knifes wont work then i guess that i would die.
yeah to be honest, in the event of an actaul full scale apocolyptic scenario i would probably cap myself.
Acutaul** (also would only do that if i knew i would otherwise become a zmbie, no matter what)
actual** (i can’t spell today)
lol, No kidding. You said zmbie instead of zombie too.
Why not go to a military base or prison…as for weapons guns are great, but bullets may run out- you need to have blunt weapons to ensure a defense if your ammo runs out- a military base provides many weapons and modes of transportation- a prison is an effective way to lock out the zombies but- you also lock your self in making it somewhat difficult to escape if you should be over run- I say go to the military base load up on weapons and any essentials use tanks to get any other supplies needed for your local stores and return to the base- fly to an island using whatever military aircraft is available- where you and you and your group (I hope I have one) can re-enact lord of the flies and take out one another instead -lol- or try and be civil to form a new community. Maybe that would work. If you can live off the land for five years then maybe you have a shot.
Shoot… Canadian military bases only have pointy sticks…
Moat+water+seamonkeys+Pirrahnas+sharks and gators+Moat2+acid+Moat3+volcano to fill moat with lava.
now I just need the funding…
Adam, you only need the acid, the animals are not going to eat zombie flesh anyway, its poisonous. Also the moat is not gonna work, zombies can walk along the bottom easily. The live volcano is out for obvious reasons, it’s dangerous.
Holy ****, THIS monster is still alive?
… it’s a zombie dude. it doesn’t die, and i will never close it (at least as long as it stays on topic)
Speaking of Zombies…
How about this weather?
ah ok. How about a dormant volcano+dynamite? Should I start the post to beg for the money now? ;)
zombie flesh is poisonous? ok, ROBOT sharks and piranhas fully equipped with (literally) razor sharp teeth moving faster than the speed of a food processor.
The moat’s only purpose was to focus the zombies into one area and have a place to house the deadly fish. better make it base. Base TOTALLY kicks acid’s @$$!
Better get a squadron of ninjas at the draw bridge as well.
Sorry I saw transformers today and I am TOTALLY in the mood for robots resembling terrestrial things.
well i guess with time and technical expertise having a robot shark/ piranha army might not be that bad of an idea (it didn’t work so well for the guys in the original transformers movie if you’ve ever seen it). why get rid of the acid though?
Cause base kicks acids @$$!
Maybe I will fill it with drain cleaner…
I realize this post is over 5 months old, but I have been thinking about zombies a lot this weekend, and this question hadn’t occured to me until now; Where does the first zombie come from?
Also, how does a zombie attack end?
it begins with a virus I guess…
as to ending… Zombies olny last 5 years, then they die, i guess you could say.
Or when we’re all dead.
a single zombie lasts five years but they have a tendency to replenish their ranks, so a full scale outbreak lasts approx. 15-20 years, longer in colder climates (zombies freeze at subzero temperatures, their blood is no longer circulating to control their body temperature) so if you want it to be easier to fight/ run from zombies go to colder climates (actually a really good idea)
**** Thats a lot of replies. Hmm and dont forget since there dead The tissue doens’t regenerate so the harder they use there muscles the quicker they decompose. Uhh..
I dont own any firearms but Im very experienced from tournaments, Im an Ex-Burglar so I can get into alot of places, Im extremly agile (climbs trees like monkey)… Well I’d pack my Daypack with tools Flashlight,Binoculars, Rope, Survival knife,lighters, lockpickset, First aid pack, Id carry some clothed and and Id begin my adventure, as for the rest of things ill need Ill just procure on site. A weapon to defend myslef would be hard cause I dont have any!
i love when people find this post and remind me of a simpler time when this was all i honestly cared about (i still care about it just other stuff got in there somehow)
So, it took me 3 freaking days to read this post from top to bottom.
Holy crap, i know.
So, my zombo plan. Get my couches (with metal frames) and block the up stairs with them, there are 20 steps to the top then a right angle and then another 6 with a door at the top of the stairs it would be ideal to barricade that with other doors, bed frames other various hard objects. fill the bathtub with water. and since i am texan get all my thousands of ammo and all my weapons, guns, knives, swords etc etc. and hide out for a while. go skirmishing for food from time to time. i could hold out for a very long while. and in this small town. not many zombies to worry about. just old fat people. that and i’m very sure that this town can hold out from zombies, chinese, or russian invaders tried to attack our town. we would wipe the floor with them, since most of my town is made up with old ww2 war vets. =)
ok my friends and i have a pretty thought out plan. as soon as we find out that there is an outbreak were all going to rendevous at the local gun store, which has access to the roof is in a very open area near a petrol station and a shopping center (mall, hey im aussie give me a break) so the plan goes we all get there and arm up, the local population is only 18,000 there has to be at least 100,000 rounds there the plan would be to elimate the immediate threat, wihich shouldnt take too long between 5 people, now i know that alot a noise is going to attract zed’s from everywhere, now you have to carefully select who you are going to encouporate into your zombie plan. you need to have people with the following traits.
1. people who arnt going to panic about semi-rotten corpses running around.
2. know how to handle a gun.
3. have seperate area’s of expertise ie - mechanic,nurse etc
4. everyone you hold up with must be able to put there personal feelings aside for the survival of the group.
now once we have set up in the gun store, rotating watch shifts are set up, once a week 3 of us will arm up and head to the shopping center for supplies, (the others cover us from the roof of the gun store. With the appropriate supplies we should be able to become self sufficient and last untill we can by some means find a way to get to an oil rig and wait it out
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both of the recently suggested plans are a bit vague, but you’re both thinking. i like that.
to Hawken: do not bother with barricades, they are useless against zombies. one of the number one rules of survival in the event of an outbreak: “get up the stairs then destroy them” (the zombie survival guide) your plan is good in the event of a small scale zombie outbreak. but it will not be enough for an apocalyptic situation.
to celtic_tita: try to keep in mind that the gun store and shopping center are going to be a natural place for human beings to assemble. you may have to contend with unfriendly paranoid panicked live human beings, who are sometimes even more dangerous than a zombie. i strongly approve and recommend the oil rig plan it is one of the best places to go as long as you remember to bring an expert with you, an engineer who knows how to repair the machinery that will inevitably break down, also build up redundencies in the skill of your team.
guns attract more zombies than they are worth a lot of the time, get yourself a good melee weapon and become proficient with it.
melee weapons aren’t my type of thing. never have. but i don’t think i can break my stairs, they are kind of connected to a wall. and is hard core. but under the landing is the pantry. so i could break that. hmm, break the stairs. very awesome. but the only flaw i have is time. i can’t hold out for a year, much less 5-20. i’d have to fix that. oh and bruce, dude. much love man. much love indeed.
Thank you for your love, I’m glad someone is enjoying this thread. Your plan is ideal for a small scale short term outbreak, but yes you will need to figure out a more longterm plan at some point but you are thinking, I like that.
Hey, Sam!
I found your zombies!!!
“Witnesses believe that during the imminent war of Armageddon, the wicked will be destroyed, and survivors, along with millions of others who will be resurrected, will form a new earthly society ruled by a heavenly government and have the possibility of living forever in an earthly paradise.”
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovas_Witness
huh… that sure sounds like zombies in some form or another, it’s just that zombies don’t work that way, they are not “resurrected” a post-mortum corpse cannot contract zombieism.
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I gave it a little thought… more like a lot actually.
The first thing I’d do is grab some basic melee weapons such as knives and a bat, maybe even a chainsaw (things that would be in a typical household). Then I’d wear some “body armor”, long sleeve shirts, jeans, jackets, anything that would give any amount of protection from a bite or scratch. Sunglasses and facemasks are important too, you definitely dont want zombie blood/spit getting in your eyes or mouth. Then I’d call my friends, the ones that are left that is. Lets just say I could only get a hold of 10 of them. We meet up ASAP and then drive over to a sporting goods store (Dick’s Sporting Goods, the largest sporting goods store in my area). Of course we’ll encounter some resistance along the way, but the zombies we seem to be talking about are slow and should be easy to kill/evade. We park as close to the doors as we can, and then get inside the store as fast as we can, evading or killing whatever is necessary. After we get inside, we close the doors and lock them in what ever way we can( barricade with shelves and other heavy objects if necessary.) Yes, there will be plenty of zombies in the store, but they should not be hard to kill. After were all safe and sound, we head over to the hunting section and then equip ourselves with any gun we please. Cell phone service should end quickly within the first few days of the zombie invasion, so we can get walkie-talkies between the lot of us. Now that communication is all set up, the only thing to worry about is barricading the entire store so that zombies cannot enter. This can be done with the countless shelves that surround the store. After all the entrances are safe from zombies, We can properly make the hunting area our new “home”. The only drawback of a sporting goods store is food. The hardest part of this survival plan will be obtaining food becuase we have to leave the safety of the store and venture to a grocery store. We’ll bring EVERYBODY with us, including any survivors weve met along the way. After clearing the zombies around the cars, we drive to the grocery store and take whatever food we need, preferably food that doesnt need to be preserved. There will most likely be many zombies around this area, due to the fact that a grocery store is a place where there are many people. Get in, get out, as fast as we possibly can. The same process goes for getting gas as well. Get back to Dick’s as fast as we can and bring all the food in. This process will have to be repeated every week or so, but if done properly there should be no casualties.
I would really like to hear some replies from people so email me at (email removed) All types of criticism are appreciated, especially if you see a flaw in my plan. Thank you for your time.
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there are a number of major elements you are missing here. the human element in the event of a zombie apocalypse is a big one, everyone and i mean everyone is going to be going to the grocery store. you will be hard pressed to keep everyone alive for very long with such limited rations. also, zombies are not going to be stopped by simply barricading the doors. they aren’t very fast and they aren’t that strong but they will never stop tearing apart any barricade. all walls are breakable eventually. also your plan sounds very loud chainsaws and guns and cars attract zombies (whose main way of perceiving people is hearing) like no other. instead of cars use bikes, instead of chainsaws use anything else but a chainsaw. also you should never bring your entire group on a raid, you need to leave at least a few people behind to hold down the fort. Sporting goods stores are good places to raid but don’t linger there because others will come and they will not necessarily be pleased that you have laid claim on the entire arsenal.
I say, you should be generous, if others do come as Bruce said, share. Be stingy, and you will find that living humans are much worse than dead/undead ones. But one thing if you ARE very serious about this zombie thing, have already enough food and water stored up. Get gallons of water, some MRI’s =P or is it, ‘e’, i don’t remember. but get those, canned goods, stock it up. so you DON’T have to got to a grocery store in the time of out break. you can just wait till they are dead. =). And also Mr Bruce, not all barricades are breakable, I’d say if you can get some concrete and make a nice wall, i doubt any zombie would be able to break through that.
What movie is more realistic in terms of what would actually happen in the event of an outbreak. 28 days later or dawn of the dead? Or do you know one that is best?
Kittenface: there are no accurate zombie movies out there, they are all Hollywood, if you want a good description of the zombie apocalypse read Max Brook’s The zombie survival guide and world war Z
Hawken: i’m not saying don’t be generous, just that people are inclined to assume the worst and be violent. Also, barriers like concrete can still be scaled,and you have to be able to leave your fortifications. this is not to say barricades are useless just they aren’t perfect, and i’m pretty sure he wasn’t talking about concrete anyway.
You guys Dont know about the rise of Arthur son of Karl the King of the White, and his loyal Knights. Armed with his mighty Sword Avidexion and his twin revlovers, he will unite the remaining men and women of the Earth and purge the zombie threat, in the name of all that is good and right in the world! I can give you the whole rundown if you want.
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how exactly did they survive the initial outbreak?
I would like to point out that this is now the first thing on the second page on Google when you type in “Zombie Plan”
ok so after reading this post (which took two hours) I think their are some major flaws, Personally, I think humans would be extinct in a year or less, ill cover that in a second, but…
Firstly, to the people who were saying it would be “fun” and like a “game” to smash zombie heads… need to grow up. Sure theyre zombies and they are the enemies But they were humans once, imagine the emotional obstacles you would have to over come if your dead wife was walking toward you, wanting to tear you to shreads…
Secondly, If you were planning on living out the 20 some odd years of zombie infestation, you cant just “barricade” yourself in an upstairs house…
1. Eventually You would run out of food, and then what?
2. What if somehow zombies found a way up?
3. If you did manage to grab enough food and such to last a very long time, Boredom and curiosity and a thirst for knowledge would eventually drive any island goer, or boat pioneer back to land to try to gain knowledge… You would die of boredom and worrying…
Also, If humans are infected, sure the zombies will be slow and cumbersome… but it is highly likely that the virus would contaminate other animals, such as dogs, birds, fish, ect. So while you may be able to outrun a human zombie, A dog is much faster and versitile. And If Birds can be affected, there goes anyones ideas of going to an island or living on a yacht… You would be picked clean…
Also, for people wanting to live on a lake and “fish”, the water eventually would be contaminated, and the fish and water would be worthless. And if such is the case, people on the rooftops, drinking rainwater, well all that contaminated water is evaporated, and then redistriuted down to earth… rainwater may not be a scource… Also… Plants need a suffecient amount of CO2 to go through photosynthesis… If 90% of the population is dead and most animals are infected… any type of zombies, if i remember correctly, do not emit any CO2 and there wouldnt, I dont think, be an adequate amout of CO2 for plants to use for photosynthesis… they would die, and then they could no longer make oxygen for us to brethe…
I know scary isnt it? but also very true….
And to the people who said “well actually zombies may help the ozone because humans are destroying it”… Whats the point of having a planet to live on if there is no life? ;) dosent make sense…
Ive got a lot of good ideas, and ive got to go for now so… peolpe, leave some comments, and im a very good analysist, so I can tell a good plan from a bad plan… email me it if you want to - (email removed). Thanks.
Hey Goldenarrow, i like your style,but one major thing you are wrong about here, which has yet to be mentioned in this thread but is very important to note: according to Max Brooks (which is what i am using as zombie cannon) the zombie virus can only be spread to humans, it does effect animals but only in that it kills them. mosquitoes and other insects like that have a natural aversion to zombie flesh but if they do bite then they are killed instantly by the virus. Also the whole CO2 argument should be backed up by real science because it sounds a bit half baked. most of the plans suggested here are for small scale outbreaks, a full scale apocalypse of the zombie variety is pretty much game over for mankind but it’s still a good idea to at least try and survive.
Right Bruce, You may be right… Im not telling people to just shoot themselves in the head… because Ive been wrong before and everyone should try to survive, but my logic is to be ready for everything… i was trying to get people to be more proactive… the rain water might not be good, so make sure you have matches, ect to purify the water… for the plant problem (which would definatly be a problem, on a large scale apocolypse, make sure you get plants for growing and plants for a greenhouse… long term thinking wins the day because short term plans are obviously only good to a point, and then what? Im saying if something like that happened, it probably would be a global pandemic… If you look throughtout history, every major virus has spread like wild-fire, indefinatly… Small-Pox, AIDS, the cold, Bubonica… We havent been able to prevent it…. And the military is only good to a point… dont forget, they are people too with real feelings… i think some people think of the military sometimes and they think of fearless, emotionless fighting machines… Im not saying im right on anything or that it would happen like that, people just need to think of these things and include them in their plans ;)
naturally, the human element of the zombie apocalypse is quite possibly the most unpredictable. people are going to have to come to terms with the fact that fighting zombies is serious business and that it requires more than a ragtag group of survivor, a half baked scheme, and a bunch of guns. it takes a good deal of psychological preparation to come to terms with having to kill ones loved ones. that preparation has to happen fast and it is for that reason that zombies are so scary. not because they are killing machines but because it is something that was once a human being. it takes a special kind of person to survive a zombie outbreak.
im not seeing it as a half baked scheme and Ive already pointed out in my first post the amount of Stamina it would require to go through with that, Im mostly speaking of people trying to formulate a WWZ plan… but here,
Fact 1: Plants need CO2 to go through their energy called photosynthesis
Fact 2: Zombies do not emit CO2, and it is likely that most humans will be dead or dying, along with any animals (as you said) that come in contact with the virus.
Fact 3:if plants cant recieve an adequate amount of CO2, they begin to slowly die off.
Fact 4: Plants emit oxygen into the atomosphere which is something we NEED to live
Fact 5: A dramatic decrease in oxygen output would seriously harm the atomosphere and further destroy living things.
And I never said the mental preparation would be a tea party… I THINK Alot People are more resiliant than you give credit… at least in Indiana… true enough mass panic would occur but people would adapt, a few People would stand up to take charge, it wouldnt be leaderless, in fact I have a WWZ Defense Coalition pact with about 25 people so far who all have access to guns, ammunition, food , gas, ect. Heck, I’m actually the leader of the group, I even appointed Colonels, Captains and such… I’m ready, is everyone else?
no, i said that the animals won’t be dying off, their population will not be effected so radically. in addition, there is a lot, a lot a lot a lot i can’t stress how much there is of air present on this planet at this time, it would take a very very long time to use it all up and considering the amount of CO2 present in the atmosphere right now i don’t believe that the plants will die off or be in any real danger of doing so. Also, I’m glad to hear that someone else is prepared and i strongly recommend reading the zombie survival guide. again, golden arrow i like your style man but some of your facts are a bit off. i hope i see you in the chat some time and we can discuss this, i’m interested in learning more about your defense coalition.
I think youre right that it would take a very long time for this to occur but you can expect the outbreak to last twenty years or so… ive only been alive 20 years and in that amount of time the OZone has significantly deteriorated and global warming is taking place. It may be a concern in the last inninings of the pandemic. and Im glad your putting in your input, I just like to analyze these things and Its always healthy to debate. It’s nice meeting you Bruce, and I would like to chat with you one on one sometime… do you use AIM, or Yahoo, ICQ, or anything else of the sort?
ahhh…never mind, theres a chat area on this site… brilliant ;)
Zombie Attack!!!!
Guys, with all the new threats that our freedom faces everyday, don’t you think it would be a good idea to start planning for the most tangent of emergencies?
With that in mind, I have devised some protocol for surviving a zombie attack. To begin, I will categorize essential and non-essential items.
Essential
-Survival
-food
-water
-shelter
-weapons/ammunition/tools
Non-Essential
-Everything Else.
Food: In that type of situation, you will need around 2000 calories a day. It is recommended that you use complex carbs. Protein requires alot of water to digest and your body can go several weeks before it really needs it.
Water: Count on about five gallons per person, per day. A gallon weighs 8.35 pounds, so you are looking at about 41.75 pounds of water a day. This includes cooking and hygiene(which is non-essential)
Shelter: You will need to go somewhere sturdy and impregnable. The zombies will not be the only people trying to get in. Fellow survivors will also want to get in, so it is important that the structure is ENTIRELY DEFENSIBLE. Just because someone wants in, doesn’t mean they are allowed in. You will jeopardize your perimeter, your supplies and whomever you have with you.
W/A/T’s: Unless you plan on taking down the entire population of your town mano-a-mano, then it is advised that you get some weapons suitable for doing so. In this regard it is difficult to prepare in advance. If you do intend to stockpile weapons, be prepared to get your Possession Acquisition License(PAL) along with proper storage facilities. Not doing so will get your *** thrown in jail by some very nice RCMP officers. There are numerous provincial laws which severely impede one’s ability to wreak havoc(which is a good thing). The most debilitating of those for a zombie hunter is the magazine limit. You are not allowed to have a semi-auto rifle with a magazine capable of holding more than four rounds, unless the rifle was designed like that! So, go out and get yourself an old M1 and prepare to deal death. In regards to ammunition, it is important that you have access to large quantities of it. Which is why the .303 British is such a great round. This round is so popular you can practically milk them from cows. You will also need serious tools to create and re-inforce your shelter. I am talking sledgehammers, chainsaws and cement. Alot of cement. And wire mesh. These can all be found at a local Home Depot, but we will look at that later.
Everything Else: You are going to stink. You are going to want to get drunk. You are going to wonder what has happened to your family. You will get very little sleep and have diarrhea for weeks. As long as you stay hydrated, fed and disease free(this especially includes taking people in as sex slaves in exchange for protection; which is a jolly retarded idea and perverted as anything) then you should be alright. It has been postulated that Zombie populations will die out within a month of turning as their own bodies consumed themselves in order to survive(think 28 days later). With that in mind, below you will find a plan sketch as to how to survive a zombie attack over the first month.
Day One
Wake Up. Go into the bathroom. Take a crap. Realize that the toilet isn’t refilling. Immediately deduce that there is an international scale tragedy unfolding and you had better protect yourself from these pesky zombies.
Get three other people. Dad, brother, brother. Go into basement. Each person arm themselves with a magnum carbine-esque 99/44 type rifle or 20- gauge shotgun. *If you don’t already own guns then you are ****** and mine as well just drink yourself to death in your backyard.* Make sure that the shotguns have some buck in them and the rifle have hollowpoints. Go outside. Now that you are armed, your first priority is to secure food and water. The virus will not have spread really far by the first day, so you have a good chance of making this run entirely unopposed. Due to this little honeymoon period, it is important that you GET AS MUCH AS YOU ******* CAN. That means you go get the largest vehicle you can find(van with no seats, extended van, cargo truck, pickup, schoolbus, ******* dumptruck) and head off to your local Walmart. Now, it will be open. You know it will be open because a bunch of dumbasses will be running off with big screen tv’s. Unfortunately, you can’t bludgeon zombies very well with those. Go inside. Go to the sporting section.
Grab all the ammunition, knives and binoculars. The latter two will be crap, but it is better to have crap than nothing else. Put this in your van. This whole time, you should have left one person to defend the van. Make sure to give them a rifle. Go back inside. Go to the Vision Center. If you have glasses you better know your prescription. Take all the contacts with your’s and other’s prescription. The reason you take the contacts is because they don’t have precut glasses and the contacts won’t fog up within a gas mask. Secure related cleaning supplies and crap. Put it in your van. The total elapsed time should be about 15 minutes. Return home and unload supplies.
The four of you now have to go to Le Baron and break in. So, back in the van/truck. Over to Woodbine and Hwy7. Take your shotguns and shoot the HINGES off of the back door. They will probably have a million locks, but most doors only have two hinges. Take a crowbar and pry of the door open. Two people with shotguns then enter and clear out the building. Once again, one man at the van with a rifle, the others inside. Grab all the ammunition(by the front counter). Grab all the guns(back counter). Take all the Cold Steel knives. Take all the rifle tools that you can find. There should be a proshop in the back of the shop. Carefully, take all of the tools. I realize that this is labour intensive, but it must be done. If anyone tries to stop you, shoot them. Grab some walkietalkies and batteries. Take the night vision equipment in the back. Take hiking boots, work gloves and weather appropriate clothing. Not just for you, but for everyone else you intend to shelter. Total Elapsed Time: 80 Minutes. Get back in your van and get back home. You now have enough firepower to withstand a zombie assault. That was your first priority. The problem is going to be finding the correct persons to make a stand with you. Hopefully, you have friends or family with this inclination.
The weapons you took from LeBaron will have trigger locks on them. If the locks are numerical then get the kids to sit down and start going through the combinations. If the locks are keyed then take a hacksaw and cut the trigger guard off. This will render the trigger exposed and is a dangerous thing to do. Have someone take an inventory of everything you pilfered(Make, Calibre, Grains, Size, Weight, Power). Now it is time to secure your shelter. While the most of us live in large urban centers, there might be a few whom are located on the outskirts or in the country. They are the lucky ones. For everyone else, your best bet is going to be appropriating a large building. Yes, anywhere without windows. So, figure out where that is, load up everyone and all the equipment and go take it. Literally, unless there are armed people inside whom you may join, just take it and ask questions later. Stay very far away from Hospitals because it is from there that the virus will spread. I would personally do this: go to Moss Park Armouries and shack up with whomever might be there. This is the best choice because they will have food, water, real weapons and lots of ammunition. The armouries are easily defensible and are inaccessible from the outside. Now that you have a home base, you need to fortify it. I don’t know how strong or intelligent these zombies will be, but you might have to deal with humans who also want to get in. So, get an arc welder and weld sheet metal over everysingle door and first floor window in the building. While you are making your way around the building, it is ESSENTIAL that you are not harmed. For this reason, anyone who doesn’t have parkinsons or is blind, must cover you. Your family will not be safe during the first night unless you finish these welds. Most of the windows already have metal grills over them. This should suffice for the time being, but unless you need to access the room, just weld the door shut from the hallway. Think of it like the compartments on the Titanic. Except this time, you want to survive. If you are wondering where you can get sheet metal from, just use the door from the room who’s windows you are blocking up. Most doors are metal and they are certainly thick enough to withstand some zombies. It should be nightfall and you are well on your way to suriving the rest of the month.
Day 2
You probably didn’t get any sleep last night and that is understandable. But, day 2 is a new day and you need to get a move on. So, you have weapons, ammo and shelter. Today you must procure food and water. So, back into the van, and remember that the virus will have spread during the night, and off to … Walmart again. It will have been thoroughly sacked but that doesn’t matter because you are coming to take the one thing that noone else has been looking for; Vitamins. Go to the Pharmacy section and take all the multi-vitamins that you can find. Now, go back to LeBaron. Clear the store. Take all the freeze dried hiker meals that they have. Take all the water purification equipment. Goto a food store. Take as much canned food as you can find. Concentrate on smoked meat and canned beans etc. Go by the meat department. Grab some steaks(this is so that you can relax later and have a little enjoyment). Grab coffee grinds. Don’t bother getting fruits or vegetables that is why we got the multi-vitamins. You should now have ALOT of ******* food. I am talking about just sweeping entire shelves into shopping carts and then dumping them into the back of a van/truck. Make sure that you get several non-perishable luxury items. You need these so that you will have some creature comforts in the weeks to come. Don’t forget to get some cleaning supplies and personal hygeine items from the pharmacy. Mainly toothbrushes, toothpaste, razors and bleach. Return home. Unload everything. Go out to Canadian Tire. Get as many above ground pool kits as you can carry. Grab some tarps too. Get air mattresses, rope, twine, chain, wire, hammers, nails, screws and compatible screw drivers. Make sure to get alot of rope. Also grab compasses. Take a few cases of water on your way out. Return home. Set up the pool kits on your roof. Position the tarps so they will funnel water into your newly created reservoir. You now have food, water, shelter and a means to defend yourself. Congrats, grill up those steaks and sleep the sleep of the innocent tonight.
Day 3
You must now take steps to ensure the continued health of every one in your group. This means that you shave everyone’s head, create a latrine of sorts from the lip of the roof or whatnot and set down basic rules.
Now that you have established yourselves, you must figure out how many more people you can support. It would be egregiously selfish not to admit new people into your group. This can only be done if they will not jeopardize the safety of anyone else and do not pose a threat to the security structure. To rehabilitate survivors, you need to follow several rules:
1. The original group is more important than yourself.
2. You must not be infected.
3. If you know of someone who is infected and protect them, then both of you will be exterminated.
4. You cannot expect the Group to take in more people than it can safely support.
5. You are and always will be a guest, subject to expulsion without warning at anytime.
6. Failure to perform your duties, theft, malice, etc. will result in immediate expulsion.
In addition to survivor rules, you will need to have enough information about each person to be able to manage and manipulate them. You will also need to set up sleeping quarters, rooms, homes and offices. You should have some sort of mandatory rifle practice each day to maintain skill levels. From all the ammo you took earlier, you will have 10 000 plus rounds of .22. That will kill a zombie if shot in the head.
It is now time to get more medicine. The infection will have spread very far by now and this will probably be the last time you will be able to leave your shelter. Go find medicine. GET ALOT OF TOILET PAPER. ALOT. Get tampons and all of that jazz. Return home. Have all the of the supplies organized. This will be your absolute last run, so you better make it count. Now, it is time to get booze. If you are going to be holed up somewhere with nothing todo but shoot zombies and jerk off to portraits of the Queen, then you had better be drunk. What does this mean? Go to the LCBO and take anything that hasn’t already been taken. Like those plastic 40’s of Canadian Club. Do not get glass. Take any liquor which has a plastic case. Go to the Beer Store. I do not know how you will be able to pull this off, but try to find something which can carry alot of Beer. Load it up. Take both vehicles back home. Unload them and disconnect the batteries. You should have something which is more or less impregnable, filled with guns, booze and supplies. That is what I would call my home! You will need to develop ways to control the booze(rations) and make sure noone smokes beside the ammunition, but other than that you are good to go. Have some people dig a ten+ foot hole through the basement floor. If you hit water, then you have a well. If you don’t, then you have a cool place to keep your booze. Open a can of beans, kick back with a beer and enjoy the sunset!
Day 4
Wake up. Take a crap off the roof and nail a zombie in the head. Go back inside. Finish organizing and cleaning all the guns + ammo. Set up a routine for sentry, meals and emergency evac plans. Kick back with a cold one. Try to shoot the fattest zombie you can see!
Day 5-30
Make sure noone gets bitten, pregnant, infected, eaten, killed or pukes in the cistern. Once the Zombie activity seems to have died down, then wait another two weeks before declaring yourself King of the World! Congratulations, you have survived!!!
Jeff wrote:
Some of them…
At a hospital you’ll get stuck and run out of food. The average human can last 1-2 weeks without food.
3 minutes without air
3 days without water
3 weeks without food
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Wow, this took so long to read. You all have really good ideas, but I want to take a stab at the loved ones part of this. Would you really be able to take the life (albeit useless one) of someone you truly loved before they were turned? Most people would almost welcome being turned if they saw thier one true love ripping at thier child’s throat with thier teeth. Many people say they could, but does anyone really believe that? You would have to either A) Not truly love that person or B) Have just a hint of sadistic-ness and like to blow peoples zombified brains out. Hawken, we seem to think alot alike on most points. Added you as friend, kk?
It is an act of compassion to slay a zombie, they are no longer the one you love. Taken from that perspective true love is the ability to see your love turn and have the courage to kill them before they become dangerous, no one wants to be a zombie. The scariest thing about zombies is that they are human beings devoid of humanity, remember this when the time comes.
Mr bruce. I was wondering, when that girl asked about what would be the most accurate. I allways thought that maybe, 28 days later would be. The speed and agility they is what made me get concerned about them. =/
And update on my zombo plan. I’m already stocking up water, food (most water), and weapons. =)
Not guns, but swords, knives, axes.
Gah, can’t wait till the apocolypse. =P
The most accurate zombie survival film is closest to dawn of the dead, however i strongly recommend reading the Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks, that book best describes the condition and is what is being used as canon for this thread.
All your plans are futile human,dominance will be ours
Another bit of zombie truth I may have forgotten to mention: they can’t type.
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the first and ultimate truth is zombies dont exist ,the second is even if they did only a nuclear strike would contain the outbreak in which case you end up a pile of ash anyway
well i dont have a zombie plan…i have 37 of them…36 of them use griffs sweet delicate meat…and in the 37th plan i knowinly infect myself in a locked room with griff so i can eat him.
Weak RvB reference dude, cite the joke at least.
About the zombies under water thingy. When you get in a large body of water, and try to stay on the bottom, what happens? You float back to the top. Don’t dead bodys float anyways?
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i guess they wouldnt technically be dead since they move and everything and probably have more mass than your average dead body since they eat but depending how deep the water was then yeah they would, after they hit a certain depth, they get screwed and cant swim to the top i think it would only be a threat in ponds, shorelines and maybe pools other than that they can chill at the bottom of the ocean for 5 years..t..what a way to go
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well I would try to know that there is going to be zombies because thhen i have the whole day to get ready zombies only come out at night and they are fast maybe you havent seen the movie legend by will smith i know it is a movie but look once you take out the diseas they look like a zombie but are back to normal they just are very humanly sick and could die.oh and the best way to kill them is by throwing granetes at groups of them
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when does exanimus come out
You people don’t think about who will care on the human race. You need to have a plan that envolves more people. With more people u increase ur detection, but u have a better chance of fighting off any zombies u would incounter.
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You people are dumb!!!
Zombies don’t die just because u shoot them in the head, remember normal people have lived after being shot in the head.
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i have it all figured out me and a small groop of friends(5) are goin to take a car and a van from a friends house go to a small town near by take suplies from a pharmacy and the spar(food shop) then go to a small military firing range get whaterver weapons we can and baracade ourselves in a 3 story comprehensive school nearby. it has electronic locking doors a few fire escapes a teck department with sheet metal and wood and allt he tools you need to build stuff. the cars will be parked in the cantene wich has a large double dors big enuf 2 get a van through. and thers a garden center so we can grow food and lots of shops near by so were set for food and watter for a till the first harvest. recicle what we can and trow the rest on the streetwere totaly safe
yes but its decaying flesh so youd get loads of diseases and die
lol…my zombie plan is unbeatable…while you guys and gals are all hideing in your basements and stores…im ganna be dropped off by helio and be kicking some zombeh *** OORAH!
USMC all the way baby!
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zombies wont float because humans and most animals only float because of the air in their lungs. Now we can assume that the zombies don’t need to breathe because they are the undead, in this case they will be crushed by the oceanic pressure. So if you have plans to hole up in an island that is like the one from lord of the flies then do it. the island may be isolated enough for your group to live there until the zombies all decay and you can most likely boat back and start up civilization, or declare yourself king of the world and eat other people’s babies :) your call
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I would let them bite me and become one of them.
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