thats weird i have never herd of that have you thought about homeschooling?
I’m a single mom who works full time.
ouch that sucks im sorry. you must be a realy hard worker
I have two jobs, one real work, two, real kids. I get to talk to adults when I go online (well, at least somewhat adults)
That really sucks. I’d find it offensive as well. My daughter has a friend who’s dad has died (she’s 7) and she just makes an extra mothers day card on that day. Eliminating the occasion isn’t going to sheid them from the pain of not having a one parent, not having the parent is pain enough! I think it’s a shame that since we are so worried about offending someone, we’ve become a generic society. I wouldn’t be offended if someone wished me a Happy Passover, or Rashashana(sp? sorry) Kwanza, or Hanukha. So why is it so offensive to wish someone a Merry Christmas or Happy Easter? I worry that one day children will lose the meaning of every holiday, and everything will mean nothing. Keep fighting! I’d keep a presence at the school. Don’t give up, and find other parents who are like minded.
It is really annoying. It makes me want to homeschool but having been a product of the homeschool system I would NEVER!
My children don’t have a daddy but for father’s day all you need is to have HAD a daddy. And they did. He just never met them.
I think that soon enough we won’t be able to look at people when we talk to them, for fear we may look at them the wrong way.
Maybe our kids will have to go to school with a mask on, in case some kids are prettier than others.
Just give them time and I am sure they will come up with worse rules than they already have.
I agree with adrianna. This is insane and her written words are in perfect answer to these ludicris ideas.
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Even if this is well meant, it is so stupid!
There is a reason for the holidays, to celebrate something or memorize somebody. It can’t just fit everybody. All kids don’t have mothers - terrible, but should not mothers be celebrated by that reason?
Efforts shall of course be made to compensate for those feelings of not being concerned by a certain holiday, but those concerned shall not suffer because of that!
In Sweden we have two school semesters, one “autumn semester” and one “spring semester”. There is a 2.5 month leave during the summer. It is a tradition to finish the spring semester with a short ceremony in the church, and sing a traditional summer song outdoors, including a flying Swedish flag.
Now some schools have abandoned that, even the swedish flag, because some students are immigrants…
I get so mad!
Sweden is Swedish, with “Swedish roots”. Those “roots” are of course a mixture of influence from a lot of countries, but they eventually became Swedish!
Immigrants are welcome, we still need influences from other cultures and races. I have no problem with that. But the immigrants are coming to Sweden, to the Swedish schools and systems. This is a multi-cultural society but there are special schools for muslims, for jews, for various nations and so on. For those who want that. They can fly whatever flag they want on those schools.
On your own building or in your own garden, on your car, or if you want to greet visitors welcome or by whatever reason, you are allowed to fly whichever flag you want (unless you choose a nazi flag or such).
But a public Swedish school shall of course fly a Swedish flag!
But sometimes, officials are so afraid of being criticized, of being a racist and the alike, so they do stupid things (or nothing).
please do not stop going to the meetings. if everyone like you just gives up then this is a done deal. keep your hand in, because you never know when the tide may turn and opportunity may present itself. if only to show up and disagree! as long as you always have an alternative suggestion, keep making it. and back up your work, keep copies. Document what is happening. Someday, someone might say, “well, what did you ever do or say about this?” and there you will have your file of stuff. Be patient, listen, …. gently persuade, with time you may get some people to change. please please do not give up. I know exactly how you feel for having invested the time in your ideas only to be shot down - but this is not just a job, or even an adult group for “some cause,” - this is about your kid. Keep your hand in, even if you feel ineffective, your presence will at least keep them on their toes a bit and you will know what and why things are happening. Someday it may be your own child that is asking why it had to be. You do not want to say - because I quit trying…. Hang in there MOM!
What is funny is how all the other parents agree how dumb it is when at the meeting they said holidays were disallowed. Even the teachers agreed! But it isn’t them. It’s the state telling them the things they are allowed to teach and not to teach. When I was a kid in first grade on St Patrick’s day we walked into class that morning and there were green shoprints on the floor and desks, the toilet water had been turned green, green shamocks had been drawn on the chalkboard, and everyone, including the teacher, got a little pot with gold cholate coins in it. It amazed us kids, and we thought a lepechan had actually come to the classroom, and is a good memory I will always cherish. Because kids want to believe in the tooth fariy and santa claus and have magic in the world, even if it make believe. But I feel as thouugh today if a teacher did that wonderful thing for her kids she’d get fired for it, when all it is is good. The teachers are afraid to teach. They are afraid of being called politally incorrect. So, as far as that goes, I know it is not their fault. They know why there is very little attendance at the parent meetings. They also know why no one goes to their extra functions.
Write to your congressman, then. Let your voice be heard on that level. Get a petition started. At least you’ll be voicing your opinion where it counts.
I went to public school it turned out to be better than the private schools. You might want to give it a chance. I’m dyslexic and the public school program was 100 times better. . .I would not be where I am today if I didn’t bribe my parents to let me leave catholic school so I could be in marching band (they didn’t believe me that the school was crappy…..it was a good school 25 years ago but now its just in the ghetto of Gary, IN and useless). . . I seriously at 14 years old had to manipulate my parents into letting me go to public school by saying I wanted to be in the marching band. . . . and then I was stuck for the next 3 years in marching band. . .and then had to do it a year in college just to show how much I liked it. . ..
Well the majority of kids belive in santa or the bunny and the tooth fairy. So I think it is up to the parents of the children who do not believe to ask the teacher that their children are not involved in it. I mean if we stopped everything cause it may offend someone else. then gosh darn I want people to stop wearing red skirts and shirts and that cause i assosiate them with brothels, (well actually i dont but trying to make a point lol ) every one has made a choice they have to live with. whether it be fromt eh foods they eat to the food they consume to the religion they believe in. You can not please every person, or religion out there.
sorry if i sound rude
No you can’t, and by doing this they are destorying all the kids fun. Instead of Valentines day they did “hat day” (which I did not participate in) and on Holloween I let him dress as batman, but they made him take it off and wear normal clothes for the day. No birthday parties allowed, its like suddenly all fun things for kids is banned in school! I hear that some places are even doing away with recess.
Well, bring your kids to my kids school where they fully support all of the holidays and fun things. Is it only the one school or is it the school board in the area?
I’m hearing different rumors (my son is going to kindergarden this year so I’m looking for a new school) but the word on the street is that this is the current trend in my area, and many are changing to meet the times.
Well I think the times are wrong. If kids want to belive in something the school system shouldnt ridicule them by not celebrating it.
wrong doesn’t mean change. My son is so young now it doesn’t matter, but I just think of all those coming years. I know I have a long fight ahead of me, because I will want to change it back to the way it was and the only way for that is a long hard battle.
I honestly feel that there is a lot of wasted time in schools. The responsiblity of teachers is not to host birthday parties, holiday parties or any other things. They are supposed to be there for the sole purpose of education. If all of the extra things would be eliminated the school day would be knocked down to half day until you hit high school. The truth is parents want all those things (especially those who don’t show up to help for them) because it allows them to spend time doing other things and working. Think about how many kids you have seen going to school who absolutely should not have been there that day because they were so sick, but their parents sent them so they wouldnt have to take a day off or miss yoga.
I kind of think that taking all of the extra crap out of the school system is a good idea, it leaves a lot more room for more important educational opportunities AND believe it or not the time and resources to be able to put on fun experiential education programs like outdoor adventure, high ropes, over night camping trips at education centers run by national parks, etc. Now its a gradual change so these things might not be added immediately, but you parents at least have bargaining chips….try to make a trade, replace the holiday crap with experiential learning.
School is more than just learning to read and write. It is also about learning social relationships, learning while having fun, learning about life in general. And when children are not allowed to draw turkeys for arts and crafts thanksgiving time because it might seem to holidayish, there is a problem. Holidays are for childern, not so much for adults. Kids are young only one time, and yes they love to learn and have fun doing it. As for this “doing other things” part, many parents these days work two, three jobs these days just to keep a roof over thier head. The luxery of staying home with childern is a thing of the past. And schools are the only time most of these kids even see their friends, at least til they get older. This all work and no play attitude does not fly with me. As for being involved with my kid, I take him to karate two nights a week, involve him in all my church’s activities, take him to parks and out hiking, snowsledding, and take him to museums. He will get an education, even if it is not from school. And I am not ignoring parent meetings, I went until I realized not one thing me and the other parents said was going to be listened to. Because all the parents disagreed with them too.
awesome…..so spend about 5 minutes in a school in another country and then come back and talk about the importance of materialistic holidays in the education of our youth. The reason why Oprah stopped donating to US schools is because parents and children value having fun and doing what feels good over providing for a healthy, well rounded, inspiring, motivation and strong education. There are a lot of things you can do for fun without arguing for petty things that only separate and exclude. That is what Americanized holidays are about, materialism, class separation and misconstrued messages. . .. look up Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, I would bet $10 you don’t even know where those symbols originated from. If you did you probably wouldnt be so adamant about fighting for them. Education doesn’t mean having fun all the time. . . holidays are for commercialism….very few people celebrate a holiday for what it was really intended to celebrate. If you include Santa in your holiday rituals at all you are completely missing the point of Christmas.
Oh and I don’t mean to be attacking anyone here but I’ve been pushed around the LD system for most of my life I’ve been pretty involved in education reform the past 10 years or so. .. I’m kind of opinionated on the subject.
I would love it if Christmas was allowed to be celebrated in school the way it was intended, but you see that would be relious and thats definatly not allowed. Santa Claus is the knock off version, a watered down way that is not relious and therefore more acceptable. And I’m not just talking about having fun, these are American holidays and they should be at least taught in school. It is part of our culture, makes us who we are. And holidays inspire childern. I remember staying up all night having my mom help me while I made Valetines so I could put then in the little baskets we had made. It was creative and fun. There are ways to learn through holidays, all about the history, the culture, the tradition. History is impertant and we need to preserve what we can of it. What will a kid learn from “Hat day”? They are having fun that day, but in a very meaningless way, whereas to know long ago there became an offical day of love and where it came from. And on St. patty’s day it would be a great day to teach all about the Irish and their culture and how many of us came from that country and why. And their veiw has not been hey lets not do holidays because we need to learn here and not have fun. The view has been hey lets have fun but a holiday might offend someone so we just won’t mention it. For extra activies for the kids, one of the info I gathered was all about South American Indians. They go to schools with their music, dancing, clouthing and spend the day teaching the kids how to be a South American Indian for the day. But I guess bowling is more educational. I’m all for educational reform. I love my childern to learn and I want them to be able to go to school to do it. I saw a web question on this site asking if William Shakespeare was even a real person and a entire group of people didn’t even know! I have education because my mother made me read books from day one and taught me everything she knew (she had a masters in history). I don’t trust the educational system to teach my childern. That is something I already know I must do myself.
Hi, I work in education and feel so much that political correctness has gone to extremes ! All the people of the world should celebrate each others cultural differences. My local town hall banned christmas decorations, and virtually all mention of the word christmas incase it offended non-Christian staff ! The majority of the staff from several different faiths and cultures were not happy and felt that they would, by association be blamed for this miserable attitude. They wrote to our local newspaper to express their unhappiness at this silly narrow minded attitude and said that they enjoyed the celebrations even though they were not christians. We go to our city centre to watch our Chinese community celebrate their new year, and visit what we call locally “curry mile” to watch the Diwhalli celebrations. What some people dont look at is the cast list in the major religions and realise that many of the prophets, saints etc, and indeed the big guy are common to most of them. Fear and ignorance are the enemy, compassion, respect and understanding are the healers.
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