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i don’t believe in God/Jesus anymore…
i prayed, i went to church, i cried out, i did my best, i was baptized, i shared my faith, i believed my dad went to heaven… no more! it happened last night. i realized that i am not talking to God - i am only talking to myself and i really am alone and no one cares and now i know life is all about making money and making myself comfortable. people around me all say they believe and there lives are better for it - but not me. my life is one long endless hell!
i have believed for nearly 30 years now and it was a waste of my time and heart… all the stupid giving and caring for the poor and down trodden… obviously each of us needs to get our own )(&()!# together and get what we can - life is not fair and it never will be. this is all there is and guilt is for whimps.
God is an invention to suppress the masses and keep people in line. well i am done being pushed around by this line of bull.
And there is no devil either - dancing in glee at my disbelief. it is all a myth!
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well you think its all a myth you have no hard evidence, its an opinion mate.
Dont be so down!
you have only lived 30 yrs…thats nothing!
Yes you live for little time! just enjoy it! i believe what comes around goes round…all the people you have helped will soon turn its self round and help you!
you bet it is not God - cause there is not God
i’ve lived almost 50 years,,,
it makes me angry i spent so much time believing a stupid myth designed to make me into a whimpy idiot who always gets the raw end of every deal… i have no husband, no kids, no job, and no fun…. ever … all i ever do is work and jump through hoops for people who clain they love me! ??? Ha! I say, enough… it is my turn. I gave God more chances than an insane person (who keeps doing the same thing over and over and expects different results…) So unless I check myself in a looney bin I have to try another path. And that is not God anymore. And if He does exist then He can send me to hell for all i care, because it cannot be worse than this endless useless existance i really wish i never was born into!!!!!!!!
god exsists whether you believe in him or not. he still loves you too. It is better to believe though, because then when it seems like everyone is gone, you have someone to talk to and be there for you…god. So, try getting back in to it, and anonymous# you are a biotch! gosh! god exsists! there is a god, and its not ur job to bring other ppl down who need to be spiritually saved! i hate you!
I dnt believe its about giving god chances, I think lifes how you want to make it, god will guide you but not neccessarliy help you, you have to get out of your own situatuion, Dont be angry at god, Hes bigger and better than us all!
i would seriously rather talk to myself… God has never lead me anywhere but down primrose paths with rose colored glasses… i am not just tired of the God bull, i am exhausted. i am not quitting - i am finally being real.
some people take drugs, some drink, some are work-aholics, some have bunches of kids… some believe in God… all coping skills - but non that really work in the long run. some die in drunken stupers, some work themselves to death and some have a euphoric idea death will take them somewhere better…. there is no difference,
Fair enough, i dont know ,there is no right or wrong here, its just what u believe and if u belive that then thats up to you!
what ever comforts you.
Everyone dies one day,how do you want to embrase your life!
just enjoy urself!
thats all taht maktters
I’m sorry you are having your crisis of faith. Any good faith that’s worth having has been tested. Sometimes Creator is really, really, quiet. Those are the testing times. Maybe you need to redefine the faith of your childhood, because it simply isn’t substantial enough to sustain you anymore.
As I have passed through different rites of passage, my defination of my relationship with my Higher Power has had to change. These have been rough times, because there seems to be very little comfort in this new relationship at first. It has to be fostered.
My faith now bears very little resembalence to the faith of my childhood, and I’m grateful for that. It couldn’t help me now. I’m sure it will change again, as I get older. And I’m sure it will be uncomfortable at the time, but I’m also sure I’ll be grateful for the change once it’s through. GOod Luck with your journey. Make sure you’re not throwing out the baby with the bath water.
just cuz there ain’t a dude in the sky named God don’t mean that there ain’t somethin bigger than you. it just don’t work as neat as some faiths put it.
there’s a buttload of scientific proof of a higher power (esp. when ya dig through quantum physics) it just ain’t a dude in the sky.
if you want something to guide you i’d check out buddhism, sounds a little more in line with what you want from faith.
if not, enjoy. just remember, just cuz there ain’t a dude in the sky don’t mean that the people around you don’t have a right to happiness too. we only got one space (Earth) guess we gotta share.
Although I believe whole-heartedly that God is real and that he cares, I have to admit a life believing and trusting in God seems much harder than one not believing in God. Since becoming a Christian I have changed into a much more loving and caring person—but my life is harder than it was before. It used to be that I put myself first in everything and was very happy and had a great time. Now it seems I suffer a lot of stress and difficulties caring for others and avoiding temptation. I often think that I would love to fall back and party, have carefree relationships, and just goof off and enjoy life.
The fact is (or seems to be) that believing is hard and full of challenges and difficulties. I believe that is what God wants and even alludes to through the life and teaching of Jesus. Remember the purpose of life here on earth is to grow and ready ourselves for life after. Unfortunately that means swimming in deeper and more difficult waters. The Bible does not say that being a Christian is the easy life – in fact it says the opposite. It’s often a hard life but the sacrifices we make here will, I have to trust, pay off in the form of our treasures in Heaven. The best advice I can give is to make friends and enter into relationships with sincere believers instead of non-believers. That way those who you spend your time with will share your beliefs, values, and understand when you need encouragement.
I know I’ve made being a Christian sound like nothing but hardship. That’s not at all true. Yes, there are difficult and trying times but with faith and patience the love and joy of God will touch your heart and life more often than not.
sometimes, god doesn’t answer our cries for our own good he is all knowing and we are not. again why are you mad at god???
Your right there is no Devil, it’s just something the Catholic Church uses to keep us in line. If you don’t choose to believe in a God/Goddess it’s your choice, but try checking out alternate religions first before you give up all hope.
good luck to you
I am Catholic and i beieleve that God does not talk to us through words but through signs hang in there who ru really mad at? dont give up on hope
im angry with myself for playing the part of a fool for so long… the concept of God only holds people back from the real truth which is this is it - one life, all or nothing - and if you want to be happy you better make sure you do something about it for you. i am planning on going out there and doing whatever i want to do for a change. i am not going to worry about what “God” would think. i know the difference between right and wrong - i don’t need no holy spirit to tell me what i can and cannot do. i watch all the people around me living there lives, having families and fun and success while i endlessly spin my wheels trying to be a “good” person…
what a joke! the stupid bible says those who have get and those who don’t get even what they have taken away… well - it is time for me to look at what i stil have left and make sure i get and get and get… instead of waiting around for “God” or all the people who are there to take from me… take anymore. screw meek and poor and all the beattitude bull. it is all about being bold and going into the world and getting mine now…
God is real, but maybe you are not. ha ha
you sound like a very selfish person, God or no God, jealous of those around you, upset because God did not make your life perfect. and I just kept laughing and laughing at this post, as I read it, because the more you rant, the more you sound like a child saying i hate my mom cause she won’t let me go to the big party. ha ha ha
and lastly, you blame being a fool on God, but you seem to be managing that quite well on your own.
God does not need your belief to exist, as much as you might think this, and you are even now placing blame for your problems on an entity that you claim does not exist. What does that say about you? ha ha ha
oh yes… oh holier than thou Akslogistic… all knowing… Not!!
nope, just not a someone who blames others for my problems..
Dudes, listen to aks. We may not agree on stuff, but at least he’s a) coherent, b) moral, and c) logical. If it’s a choice between aks’ Christianity and the kind of selfishness that both he and I see in this post, he wins any day.
Whether you choose to believe in God or not is your choice and I don’t think you should be judged for that. Personally, I believe in God because I can feel that there is something in the core of my soul that is connected to something more powerful than my human mind can imagine. What is interesting to me, is that you are awfully angry at something you don’t believe in. I don’t believe in the institution of religion because I think is judgemental and very often people have blind faith. I think no faith is better than blind faith. Ask most Christians, “who wrote the bible”, and many think God did. Most of them don’t know is was written by common men of the day. Anonymous what would make your life better? Tell us what you need, not what you are angry about.
do not care if she believes in god, just don’t want her to blame him for her problems, especially if she says he does not exist.
Akslogistic, I agree and how can she blame someone she does not believe in?
i did not blame him/ it/ whatever you want to call the mythical being… i blame myself for believing the lies and myths of our cultures that were invented to oppress me..and i am here to pronounce it! to declare that i am done being a fool on this planet - it is My time now - not yours or yours or anyone elses. i am a nice person, i helped people and said “pass it on” i’ve worked and studied and given till i’ve bed myself dry.
follow jesus they say— get beaten and crusified and pierced… well i’ve had it and now i just want to say i know better. go ahead - be stupid - keep believing there is more than this… if it makes you feel better that go groove on it for all i care..
I am angry because it took me so long to snap out of thsi false hope perpetrated on me by people who - as far as i can see - have everything they want and need and think that preaching God is some way to feel better about themselves and less fear about all they can’t control in this world. Babies die everyday from starvation and i see alot of God believers just walking around with blinders on acting like they are doing/ believing/ whatevering something that matters in comparison…
but hey… live your pipe dreams - and know i am out here just looking to make a buck. Money is power, Money is what will make my life better. And don’t think i won’t share, but i sure as heck won’t feel guilty about going after it above all else either. Everyone is really just in it for themselves. Don’t come here and pretend you are not.
I think your problem is that you had blind faith forced on you by Christianity. Your right bad things happen to good people, however if you win the lotto tomorrow it will not make you happy. I am not telling you to believe in God, because you should believe what is in your heart. You can’t prove there is not a God and I can’t prove there is. So, we have to agree to disagree. However, I am very concerned about where you life is headed with the hatred you feel toward yourself. You have to spend the rest of your life with yourself, so you have to work on making yourself somone more enjoyable to be around. I myself have sacrificed alot to make a diffence in the world, but my reward has seeing the changes that my kindness has made on other people. Too many people believe in God because they fear death, or they want to feel superior. I commend you for having the guts to admit you don’t believe. I had a hard time the first time I had to admit I was not a Catholic anymore and probably never was, or not even a Christian. Good luck on your journey and I hope you learn to find happiness in yourself.
I must agree that the problem here was blind faith. And no, it isn’t the only kind. Some of us believe in a higher power based on our experience and relationship with that power. If you just accept what the book says and what the preacher says, it isn’t enough. I was fortunate enough to reach the point of casting off blind faith early in life. Leave yourself open to experience, and you might be surprised. If you close up to the idea of “something more” than you will have nothing more. Reality is molded by consciousness. We are Gods. Keep looking. The answers aren’t “out there.” They are “in here.” Look within. Just keep looking. What you find may not be God as you understood Him to be, but you will find something, and that something will guide you to your right place in life. Believe in yourself. Good luck.
Hi:
I don’t know what you are going through, but, I know this, you might not believe in God, but HE believes in YOU!! You can turn your back on HIM, HE’s always there. Nothing we do is a surprise to HIM. Yes, even turning away from HIM. God knows us from the tops of our heads to the soles of our feet, He is a loving, kind, patient and caring Father. Put it into perspective, the same way your earthly father disciplined you is the same way our Heavenly Father does. My testimony is this, I have been praying for a miracle for over 6 months for release from this HELOC. I want to serve God, satan does not want us to. Understand that satan has to seek God’s permission for whom to sift. Look back into your life and see what God has done. It is by no mere coincidence that you posted this message and you are receiving God’s message. He has been trying to speak to you, you haven’t been listening. He has directed me to tell you to read James 1 and James 3. Seek God’s wisdom and His knowledge. As I have said, I am praying to and I will pray for you. Don’t quit, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,” John 3:16. Life and death are in the tongue, speak life. I will pray for you right now, Lord, Our Father in Heaven, help my brother/sister in Christ who is struggling. Fill them your wisdom and knowledge, guide them with your spirit. For we know that we can do all things through Christ who strengthens us. Forgive us of our sins so that we may forgive others. Teach us to love and pray as you do Father. We ask these things in the precious and most Holy name of Jesus Christ. Amen. God wants you to hear HIM. Not the world. Pick up your Bible, even if you don’t feel like it, talk to HIM like you would speak to your own earthly father, HE wants a relationship with YOU too. I end this with love.
Okay, now I’d have to say that I’m leaning away from “christianity is better than selfishness” again…
well, gosh darnit, that close to converting you. guess this proves my point about fishing for souls with bricks, ha ha
and dude, God did not tell you to tell her to look at those certain passages. do not commit sin in the midst of preaching for God. you go too far, and assume too much, way too much. you need to be very concerned for your soul, and begin pull the plank from your eye first.
if God spoke to you, He would have let you know he/she is a she. dam, dam hypocrites will be the end of the church.
Aks, not conversion, just close to thinking it was better than some of the alternatives. I still think your version is.
can you tell i am pis*ed, eric. these people cause more lost faith than anything science or atheist have ever done. they make the entire system of belief seem like a myth out of nordic lore, or a disney movie. good God almighty….
Did you ever think that there may be a reason for the troubles that you are going through? Many times God tests our strength and faith and it all comes out for the better because then from our experiences, we can help someone else.
I’m not telling you that you have to believe, that’s up to you. Just think about what you’re saying…
donald, i agree with your belief overall here, but i do not believe God tests us. He knows us, and every single possible reaction we will have. does not need to test us. but he does need to teach us. do you see what i mean? and the difference
God is now the “G” word in my life. I still find myself crying out to “God.” But it is like i have been brainwashed. It is only me, myself, and I now.
“God” is not there, “He’ does not care, “The Bible” holds nothing but guilt and remorse designed to hold us back from living the words speaking of freedom are traps to make people believe they are loved by a “Creator” who intends for them to find “truth” and “grace” by a relationship with “Him.”
I have sacrificed everything. All that is left now is for me to die. But I won’t do it. It is my turn to live. Enough letting some false hope live through me…. :(
Maybe your beleif system was no good for you. If all you read in the Bible was guilt, and your god was punishing, and you feared him, then that sucks. Did no one ever tell you that you are free to create the kind of God you need and want in your life? Andby god I mean Good Orderly Direction- I don’t buy into the big guy in the clouds with the beard and the thunderbolts.
I had to completly abandon the god that was fed to me as a kid, because it never did a thing for me. Call it what you want, give it whatever characteristics you need it to have, and no more, and beleive in that. When you think about it, maybe the judeo/christian beleif system holds nothing for you. It doesn’t for BILLIONS of people on this planet. Maybe any and all religions hold nothing for you too. I’ve gotten sweet bugger all from most religions, and follow none. I find them too restrictive and ready to **** us all.
What I follow comes from my own heart and mind. I am accountable to myself and my Higher Power only. No person can tell me that I’m beleiving right or wrong, or that I should be doing it this way or that way. And my God, for lack of a better word, is only love. There is no damnation, judgement, condemnation, critisism or fear in my relationship with it. THat’s all the BS people have put into it. I take what I like from religious literature, and leave the rest. Be darned to anyone who says I shouldn’t. It took a while to even read any kind of literature like that.
Beleiving in this way has finally made me whole. I could spend the rest of my life trying to cram myself into a religion that didn’t fit me, OR I could stumble around by myself, alone and confused, feeling I lack something all the time, but I found this, and it works for me.
my dear friend, I am not a church of no kind, I am a 40 year old black woman, that is just finding God/Jesus. and I am here to tell you that there is a God and Jesus, I pray each and every day to them, they might not come when you need them but they are always on time. you might not think so but they have done something for you that you think you did on your own. for one waking you in the morning, letting you be able to move and dress yourself even having the job you have. we think that we are doing these things ourselves but we are not if it was not for Him and His son we would not be able to do anything. so you should thank Him for all of His blessings and everything Hes has done for you, and all that He has planned for you because He has something planned for you you just to have a litte patience. we all have to learn to wait on the Lord, He works out everything. it is amazing how it has taken me all of this time to see how good God truly is. just keep praying and read your Bible, read the book of Pslams don’t just read the words really read what it is saying and you will feel better, you might know what everything you are reading will mean, but just think about what it is saying or telling you I mean really think and you will understand. God is real and He is always with us, in everything we do feel and say. DO NOT GIVE UP ON GOD HE WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON YOU HE LOVES US.
Well I don’t really have a religious affiliation but I believe in God and Jesus.I have felt his blessing everyday when I wake up alive.That is the biggest blessing God can give you!Life itself!Think about it.Sure life may suck at times but not everything is bad.He gives you the opportunity to be with the ones you love.Sometime,he stays quiet and puts you to the test to see if you really do believe in him with your heart,soul and mind. Like Cynthia said God is real and He is always with us,in everything we do,feel,and say.
Too much preaching going on here. I believe in God, however I think he goes by a number of different names: Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, etc…. I don’t think cramming Jesus down this persons throat is going to help her/him. You need to look inside yourself for inspiration and faith. Faith in what every you want to believe. If you let your anger settle and just be for a while you will feel that there is a power greater than us. You have the power to change you life for the better. You are amazing and if you reflect back on your life you have changed peoples lives by being apart of them. You are significant. You are human. You are blessed. You are connected to something greater than yourself.
only if you choose to be, maximina, only if you choose.
Pick something you can start to beleive in, and put just the tiniest teeniest bit of faith in it. Make it something really safe, and really kind. The lost feeling will start to disapate a bit then.
There is always hope. In Hebrews 13:5, we are reminded of a promise that God made, “Never will I leave you, never will I forsake you.” Even though it may seem like there is no God, that Jesus is just a myth or just a prophet or just a man, He is standing beside you as your Savior.
I know in my life, there have been several really hard times when it’s been nearly impossible for me to believe in the existence of God. But every time, I was doing all the talking, screaming, yelling, and never allowing God to speak back to me. I had disproved Him to myself before even allowing Him to reply. Don’t allow the lies and deception of the enemy to overwhelm you. In Romans 8:38-39, we are reminded that neither death or life, neither angels or demons, neither the present or the future, or any powers, neither height or depth, or anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The best way of being assured of the absolute truth of God is by remembering. I have seen God do so amazing things in my life, and in other people’s lives, that there is no question in my mind about His existence and love and soverignty. In today’s world, things change so quickly that we forget all the amazing things that happen. However, the best way to combat this is just remembering, like it says in Philippians 4:8: whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
Remember what God has done in and through your life. Focus on it. Think about it. And, if you ever want to talk about what God has done in my life, and in the lives of my friends, or just to talk and vent, please feel free to email me directly. I put my email address in the posting here, and you can also find it on my website, http://www.myerscountry.net. I will also be praying for you, that God would reveal Himself to you once again in an awesome, unforgettable, undeniable way :o)
In His grip,
Chris
people say wait for God, listen to God, God will answer. God wont give u anything u cant deal with, God loves u…. well here i am and i got nothing. i should say… here i was.
i wanted to believe God loved me. i wanted to believe God was there. i wanted to hear something, see something, know anything… but it is all chaos and i am dizzy.
all these years wasted believing at least God loves me - now no one does and i can finally face that God doesnt either… at least if i stop believing He exists i can move on and maybe finally find love after all.
you have no idea how hadr this is for me. but there is no answers for me in that bible or in faith or whatever… and “without love” i have nothing :(
Maybe you need to look for the love inside yourself first. You need to like you and accpept you, before you can decide truly what your beliefs are. I think questioning God’s existence can be healthy. I think people who say they believe in God but have never question his existence, have blind faith. Maybe you should leave God out of your issues for a while and focus more on what you are doing wrong. Maybe you should let yourself decide that you don’t know if their is a God. Sometimes life does give us more than we can handle, but we are lucky if we have loved ones or strangers who can help us in some way get through it. Many Christians believe in God because they are afraid of death or they like the idea that they are on the chosen team. Don’t be afraid to question and if you don’t believe than that is ok. If there is a God he will forgive you, because you are human after all. Stop worrying about whether you believe in God or not and live your life. Don’t worry about the Christians who are judgemental, because after all if there is a God they have a lot of explaining to do to him about their judement on others and trying to play God themselves by telling everyone else how to live.
You are an amazing person, therefore you need to look to yourself for the answers. Remember you are the only person you HAVE to put up with for the rest of your life (and maybe beyond), so you better start working on being someone you like to spend time with. Good luck on your journey.
dude,, God is not a coping mechanism.. He is not a genie or a magic word either..
He is the King of King and Lord of Lords, a loving and Mighty, Holy God..
for example.. the law of gravity is present.. if you jump off the building you would certainly fall unless something prevents you from doing so..
and same thing with the fact that God created the heavens and the earth and that Jesus Christ died for our sins because he loves us so much.. believe it or not,, it wouldn’t change a thing..
may you continue to seek Him..
Luke 11:9-10
“So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.
may God bless us all!
Joel I undersatnd you have strong beliefs, but that does not make them fact. You were not there to witness God creating the heavens or Jesus on the cross. These are things that were taught to you and you chose to believe. I can witness and experience gravity, but I have not witnessed or experienced your beliefs. Did you learn about fact and opinion in English class. You have opinions about God, but your beliefs do not qualify as facts. The Bible may be a complete work of fiction. Did it ever occur to you that many other faiths believe as strongly as you, what made you so special that god chose you to be on the winning team. Many people would say that the quote by Luke is rubbish. It may not sound like it but I have a high respect for your beliefs, I just don’t think it is right for you to state them as fact.
i dont hate god, if there even is one. and i dont blame god for anything. i dont like my life so far, but i figure, i might as well stick around and see what happens. ive been suicidal before, but nothing that comes along has hurt me more than this one thing in my past, so i figure, why end my life now over something less significant than that one thing of my past, when i didnt end it over that? if there is a god, and if we do get reincarnated, i must have been a serial killer or something and god must be punishing me for my past life. but thats okay. misery is part of life. it just so happens that it consumes most of my life, and im okay with that. i do not fear god, as people will tell you to. i am what i am, and i cannot change that. i am not sorry for how i am. i cannot be sorry for something i have no control in changing. the essence of me was in existence before i came to be physically, and therefore I cannot change my own essence. i know who i wish i had turned out to be, and i know who i am is not who id like to be, but i also know i cannot change that. nothing in the future or present can take away the past, and ive got to face that, as do we all. id give anything to go back and start over, but id end up the same, bc i didnt know then what i know now. so theres really no point. but without people like me, there cannot be people who are “good” and “sinless” or w.e. -well at least less sinful than i. i remember when i first thought about what it would really be like to die. i was very young, and had just gotten home from school. i went across the hall into my sister’s room and said to her, “You know what I was thinking about? When we die, it’s just nothing. Like nothing happens. Nothing is. We can’t hear or see or even think. I can’t even imagine it fully because I’d have to stop thinking to understand the feeling, and if I stop thinking, I can’t understand anything. It just ends. Everything just ceases to exist in my mind.” All she could say to comfort me was simply, “I know. I know. Just try no tto think about it, ’cause it’s really depressing.” Today, over 10 years later, both my sister and I are lost in our own worlds. Without parents, and without hope. I think we both are here soley because we just are waiting around to see what happens each day when we wake up. Nothing more. If God has our lives planned out, then he’s had some pretty ****** plans for us so far. idk. i guess i’ll just go to sleep again and see what happens tomorrow. probably a foreshadowing of my demise - nothing.
I strongly recommend you read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. He covers every aspect in the circular theistic belief system and does a very good job of making someone who has lost their faith in god or the bible realize that they don’t have to feel like a heel about it.
He has put into words thoughts I’ve known most of my life but never quite knew how to articulate.
I lost my dependence on a divine crutch between the ages of 16 and 18. I give such a broad range because somewhere along that time, I stopped believing but I didn’t admit it to myself until I turned eighteen. People said that I was too smart for my own good and that I had “thought” myself out of religion. The irony of it is the ignorance they promote in pointing out the dangers of using rational thought in pursuit of theological knowledge.
One thing you must remember though. Godless does not mean without morals. The biggest crime religion has committed is proclaiming a monopoly on morality. Don’t let the self-righteous platitudes of the “god-fearing” deter your search for a sense of purpose.
if he gives you everything you ask for, it’ll be very scary. besides you are not even trying hard enough to get out of your situation. you need to help yourself first before anyone can help you. it is the same as you can lead the horse to water but you can’t force it to drink
This is one of those long winded replys that no one will probably read, but I just have to write it anyway. Im replying because I feel that ‘God’ has completely kicked me in the guts. This is what happend:- I never liked the ceremonies, But my relationship with god was always there and when the church was empty. Church is the one place to go where I feel safe. I thought I was in a spiritual place of sancturary. Ive had some rotten times, mosty due to sickness or repeated heart break (usually both at once). Ive always just sat in the church, talking to god about it, thinking that god new that I was struggling over the kind of stuff to the point that I was, at times, crippled by it. It was always the sort of stuff that just kills you inside, like repeated rejection, failure and years of plain bad luck. For a long time I limped from one phase of life to the next but I got through it. Mostly because Im good at being creative with my problens but also because had my faith.
This summer I was actually feeling that life was ok. Nothing special had happend, just hard work and feeling good about life that sort of optimism. Anyway, Because life was ok I took myself of to the best place in the world. The church.
I was sitting in the grave yard drawing when there were a few incredible co-incidences. Coincidences, I have to say that were too wired for words. In short, someone walked in there, just like i did, to find the peace in this church. Now, im no great romantic, and Im not prone to majical thinking but I could not beleive my eyes or ears. (And, although it pains me to write it I had just recoverd from years of emotional deprivation thatseemed to eat away at my soul like some kind of cancer and God had heared all about it). Then,all of a sudden there was this certain someone who looked and spoke like every bit of wonerfulness that Id never found. I feel I need to add here that I am rather down to earth about this sort of thing but this was all very very wierd. Like someone had reached into my psyche and created this wonderful person that for all common sense in the world could have been created out of my dreams! The chances of me meeting someone like this in my tiny village or us meeting again was so remote but it happend and in that church. Even wierder too, was that he felt it as well.
Now, I know that finding some massive attraction in a church cant be that un-common. But this sort of stuff just does not happen to me. And, considering the reason why I was going to church for so long, which was to escape such things I could’t help wondering what was going on. Anyway, it was like this person shook me out of my comfort zone. Like I said, I had reached a certain hard earned contentment in my terminal singledom despite all the heartaches and not to mention draging my self esteem out out the gutter.
To cut a long story short, he went as quickly as he arrived. He was a traveler and he also went because the partner who had leaft him suddenly appeared back on there scene. She had changed her mind and still loved him. He had known me 2 weeks and her 2 months so, as usuall I did not stand a hope in hell. Story of my life and Stupid story. Pathetically trivia compared to others who have lost their faith through terrible traumas. But for me unbeleiveably and phenomenaly significant. That man walked out of that church. The very place where I sought sancturay from such hurts. I dont spend my life sitting in empty churches praying for a nice bloke to come along! I go out, meet lots of people and I dont wear my heart on my sleeve, and Im not needy. But, this is like the ultimate betrayal from God. The church was the one place I went to for santurary given that the theme of my life is emotional disapointment this was a sharp painful reminder of the theme of my life.
The bottom line is that GOD has suposedy been there in that empty church giving me saftey and acceptance when Ive been in bits all these years then, God should know that the worst thing that could have happend would be to chuck in my face an angel who did not know his own heart!
I thought I had a realtionship with god and the church. At the very time I had accepted and come to terms with years of dissapointment and emotional deprivation Im kicked back in touch with it. I find myself meeting the percise person whos sweetness but distracted heart had the ability to remind me of how incredible empty life can be. Im not heart broken by him. Im heart broken by God.
If there was anything in that church that had an incling of what I DID NOT need in life, then it would not have introduced me to him. A knowing and kind God would not have allowed that to happen underneith ‘Gods holy roof’. Anywhere else fine, thats life. But church - no. there is nothing I trust anymore. Ps, if anyone out there did take the time to read this then thankyou.
don’t worry i am 38 y/o and just stopped believing too, actually just this year. but finally i can say here: i do not believe in jesus. i guess i believe in Isness-the creator but thats it.
Im 19, I became a christian almost 2 years ago and threw myself enthusiastically and wholeheartedly into every aspect of the life it brought. However, I can honestly say that im not sure I believe anymore. I dont know if i want to believe or not, and I really dont know what to do.
People in my church were trying to push me into weekly bible studies etc. and thats originally what forced me to take a step back, I think. I’m not sure what to do at the moment Should i read my bible, talk to christians and try to “get back on track with God”? Or should I continue, like everyone else, with my life, trying to do my best and be a good person, until some hardship forces me to fall back on what was my faith??
In 2001 I went back to the church for help.Instead I got hell on earth.I thought God was the answer for everything.The people here who have written seem to be more broken hearted than angry with God.It hurts so much to be confounded.To suddennly experience the complete vicious opposite of your prayers.Instead of bread you get stones,instead of water you get snakes.It hurts so much to be ignored by this supposed God.I am destroyed inside,utterly wrecked.Lots of broken spirits here,and mere words like”God still loves you”lends no comfort or healing.I am seriously considering suicide.There isn’t really anything else left.So much despair.It is like everyday you are dying.
God may not be the answer, but neither is suicide. Even if God doesn’t exist, we can still enjoy the life we’ve been given. If you find yourself finding it so hard to cope that you consider suicide, i’d recommend counselling for you. (not spiritual counselling or anything, just talking to someone who’s trained, and helping to work out a way to deal with your problems.)
I’d like to believe in God and I still cant bring myself to believe that we, and this world came about by accident. Without that, life seems somewhat meaningless. But whether life is meaningless or not, It’s all we’ve got. I’m going to enjoy it, and take the best of everything it has to offer!
I stopped beleiving a few years ago after befriending a youth pastor’s wife and spent lunches in the parking lot with her Iuse your imagination). She was having problems with her husband and wanted to talk. She didn’t care that I was married and had a kid on the way. Anyways, that created the downward spiral to disbeleif, my mistake though, not Gods, if there is one. I recall a verse in the Bible that says the something like the rain falls on the righteous and unrighteous. I took this mean that we are fair game in life and he will not step in to help a bit. His disciples got the crap kciked out them, crucified upside down, head cut off, and yet Jesus didn’t twitch. Point is, don’t expect him too, never has, never will. I guess he shows up when we die and face eternity or something.
I don’t get it, God is all knowing an perfect and he knows the future of everything he’s about to create. then he creates the world and Adama and Eve, and tells them not to eat from the tree of life, knowing dam well they would. uh, duh. Then he gets mad at them when they do as if he didn’t know. If you were to create something that would fail, would make it anyways and act like it wasn’t going to, or would you fix it. He made us flawed if he made us at all.
I have looked to science and it seems life if definetly possible without God, except for one small part, where did the mass of stuff come from that the big band originated from. This is something science cannot explain, everything is, life has been created in the lab. But science says energy cannot be created nor destroyed, so it had to come from somewhere. It is very interesting material. Scientist have theories that there are several universes, perhpas infinite ones.
One thing my uncle said is that no one is special and that we all recieve the same thing in the end. I am afraid we are going back to the same place we came from before we were born, “nothing”. I am having a ahrd time making sense of it, I really cannot write off God yet, there is still a glimmer of hope for me.
My friend loast his 4 year old to cancer recently and you can imagine his thought about ending his life. Here is waht he did to cope. He searched for God with his brain. He used his brain to study the genome and all scientific facts and studies searching for God. I must say he hasn’t found God but he has found somthing that he enjoys doing, he is quite the atheist but he keeps an open mind and lives each day thankful to be alive. I guess we could live to make a difference for others.
good luck to all.
ladies and gents, sorry for the msipells and poor grammar, just in a hurry. later.
Wow!Hopefully somebody gets to see this and really wonders what the heck is going on! I am 25yrs old, a father to a beautiful and most adorable daughter. And all my life i have believed in God but no more! Why should I? I mean really! If the guy knows what we are going to do before we do it then why would he still let us be knowing we will lead pple astray, that is assuming he is there.
I am black and my belief in God is questioned by a lot of things
1st of all, missionaries came here [Africa] with a gun in one hand and a bible in the other and that alone shows us what kind of religion Christianity is and why on earth would a white man, who so hated and was disgusted by black people gladly tell us of a happy and peaceful place when he had a hard time sharing mother earth with us?
Innocent kids are raped and die for no apparent reason daily and this supposed god is just in heaven, with all his angles watching and enjoying the show! why can’t he intervene and do something about what is happening here? Yes i have had one miserable life and i really do not blame anybody for it but if there was somebody who cared about me out there then they would try make my life a little bearable, just as i do for my daughter, whom i love dearly!
God is just a story like the tooth fairy to keep us in line and do a whole lotta stupid and crazy sh*t! A means of control for human kind and why on earth is Christianity the only religion out there that is making money off people and criticizes all other religions? Is it because of the competition?
Christians are the worst ever type of people who judge others and have more hate than any other person walking the earth.
I am tired of hating and judging, therefore i now will start making my own way which is a whole lot less hateful!
Hello!
I think that there are 3 possibilities:
1) You die and that is it. Your body decays. You no longer exist.
2) You die and that spark of life goes back into the universal force.
3) You die and your soul or personality survives in another universe.
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Concerning #1, energy is always transformed. The life force/spirit that keeps you alive as a human is not destroyed. Your life force/energy spirit goes back into the cycle of life (which includes death). It is all impersonal. We are manifestations of a life force/spirit just like the trees are; the animals are. So #1 doesn’t seem to click for me. I die like my dog and plants die…. my personality or soul doesn’t survive…. but my spirit/energy/force do and return to the “big melting pot,” eternal cycle of life…..
Concerning #2, well….as you can see, I’ve already bought that.
Concerning #3, I’d like to believe that. My soul or personality survives. I think religions try to capture that idea…. but a lot of imperfect descriptions abound…. people keep thinking that “their” religion has it right…. that most others are wrong. Some go to the extreme and persecute other “non-believers.” But, hey…. how am I different from my dog or other sentient beings….. If you’ve ever had a dog, you had to get out in nature and walk with your dog and see the seasons change together. You have a bond with your dog. When your dog dies, you wonder why most religions don’t talk about favorite or heroic animals surviving.
So, by living life…. I’m 56 now…. having lost loves ones both human and animal–I’ve come to accept more and more that we are here due to evolution. God is the universal force, spirit, creator… He/She/It/They are impersonal. There is no intelligent design… just the force of the universe, cosmos….. whatever you might like to call it.
In order for just societies to arise….there has to be some observation, and introspection about the human condition… this leads to religions and the rise of humanist, secular thought.
My dog taught me that when I walk and stop to take time to look at the world about me, I am a part of it all…. and I return in essense to it.
So, if I believe in God…. it is an impersonal, powerful force. I am part of that energy and will return to that energy once I experience physical death.
Thanks for being this community.
The purpose of life is to suffer. Through suffering comes great pain and the realization that nothing in this world will ever bring you peace. No matter how many goals you reach, how much money you make..these things all lead to wanting more of them. Hence, this physical world never completes you. There is always something else you’ll want/need and than a better version of that want/need will arise. Durning this process of pain and suffering you will forsake God = because what others have promised you of God has not taken place, happned. You have free will and God cannot grant you your prayers because it means another human being will have their prayers go answered. Cause and effect. Don’t give up on God there is a way to find the creator. The creator is not in the chaose and matter of the physical world but inside of you. Being. Feeling is believing. Not seeing/hearing/tasting. Feeling. Once you have had that feeling you will understand. I can lead you to that path that saved me. Leave all religion behind with their stories and their pointing fingers. Those things do not matter. What matters most is understanding where and how to find God. May the light shine in you soon.
God isn;t real =| Maybe he is but to me he isnt and i speak for a lot people. I dont understand why ppl die; why ppl go to church. Why is there soo much violence. Violence, isnt that what god doesnt want ? Well why is it happening. [ because there is no god ] Why are their ppl who hate themselfs. Why is their ppl who just would rather die? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? :’( WHY HAS MY FAMILY BROKEN APART WHY !? No answer huh . thats what i thought.
Hessick…
First of all I’d like to say to you that at least you are searching for answers which is more than what most people do. Second, why is God or the lack of God the reason for all of the questions you asked? We have FREEDOM OF CHOICE therefor God does not interfer. People hate themselves because they are unaware of who they really are and allow the world to make them feel bad. People make their own decisions. It is up to you to want to find God. Look inside of you. When you do you will feel…not KNOW…but just feel it and then you will understand. If you would like me to tell you more let me know. I do not want you to live in such a sad illusion.
Don’t worry about hell, Revelations is a lie. Read Daniel, and there’s your proof.
Just remember one thing, something to abide by, it’s important for you to stay on the path of truth.
Wow. I read almost all the replies. I know exactly how you all feel. i was saved at 16, and my whole life changed for the better, I was happy and felt loved and at peace, shortly after i went to bible school for 2 years and after that my whole life fell apart. i had been on several mission trips and saw real miracles happen. but when it came to my own life i have suffered many years with anxiety and depression with thoughts of suicide. I have had constant pain in my body, and I have cried out to God many many times. Tired of hearing all the pat answers that people want to give you. i don’t feel God anymore or am barely able to live a day with any type of peace. the people that write those pat answers, have not yet been through anything. With all this overwhelming evidence that God hates me and i might as well die, I cannot bring myself to abandon that there is a God of love. because otherwise when I die, its going to be just as miserable if not worse, you got to have something to look forward to. Its not fair that people like us have gotten dumped on, and there are others who are very successfula and peaceful with very little effort. Those are the christians who tell you “are you praying enough”…dadada….so which world is right thiers or mine, well they’re both real because each of us experiences it……for once I would like to be the person who has never experienced the kind of suffering that others will never have a clue of.
I quit believing today Im not going to church anymore and I am in full depressed mode from no on no one will bother me.
i’m there too the question i asking is what do you do
hopefully i can tell you on the other side
im 23 year old and ur story is my story my parent are catholic and believe so much in god have lots pictures and candles of jesus and i use to go churhs and pray but then my life change when i was 18 and start thinking all about the story about jesus and i got tired about it i coulb be a god but no one knows who is it?? who create the earth, sun, moon, all planets all the universe where they all come from???? jesus is just a story o a person who want ppl to follow him and make them believe em but tha a story and dumb!!
okey jst know that we are here for purposes.couse if we didnt here for nothing we didnt die like stones….and i believe that this purposes is fullfuling the commands of god and i dont believe that jesus is god i jst believe that jesus was a connection between god and his people….so that jesus gonna tell the people what god said to them…..
i always think about that and still im looking the truth and i know some where some day im gonna find the true…i believe god.. the only one
Hi!
Im 17 year old and i dont believe in god because if i cant see him then there is no god . People just want to believe that they have a leader called God who guides them. Im from estonia. I dont want to insult others with this because everyone has rights to believe what they want to believe.
I realy hope that there are many people who thinks the same way and i hope that people like me arent gonna listen the jesus fans. DONT BELIEVE IN GOD. I hope everyone will forget words like : GOD , Bless and everything with it.
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