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My mum has ruined my life, my boyfriend who i was madly in love with - she ran off with him.

left me and my sister and my dad, she has dissappeared out of my life with the love of my life. not only have i lost 1 person but i have lost 2. the closest people to me. i have my dad and my sister but this does not take the pain away that i am feeling. i feel betrayed and my trust does not exist. i have to live with this for the rest of my life. please help.

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DGZ offline Verified User (2 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Walsenburg, CO, US | 2 years, 5 months ago (3 minutes after post)

Right now I know you are hurting.
This hurt will not last your entire life unless you allow it too.
When you are ready, get back into finding friends. First, give yourself time to heal. You were betrayed by people you thought loved you. this kind of hurt doesn’t go away quickly or easily but it will subside with time.

I hope you find peace in your heart.

Here, have an inspirational poem I wrote:

Don’t Dwell

Don’t dwell on what makes you sad,
But on the things that make you glad.
Don’t dwell on friends that done wrong,
But on the ones that stayed strong.
Don’t dwell on troubles long gone,
But on the blessings still to come.

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 5 months ago (6 minutes after post)

Woah.
Check out this link:

http://www.pathwork.org/

Click on “the lectures” then click on “obtaining the lectures” on the right.
Read one lecture who’s title pops out at you, I assure you it will help.

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sweetlike-chocolat offline Verified User (2 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
US | 2 years, 5 months ago (8 minutes after post)

thank you but now i can’t stop crying. i feel i have noone, i was so close to both of them and theyv done this to me, i feel i can’t go on. i can’t belive my mum can sleep with the same man i have, it is like incest. i feel every emotion possible. i cant sleep im taking sleeping pills and every time i shut my eyes i see them together. i just hope this wont be with me forever.

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DGZ offline Verified User (2 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Walsenburg, CO, US | 2 years, 5 months ago (10 minutes after post)

You have a right to cry. You absolutely have a right to be this upset.

It will not be with you forever. Tomarrow is always a brighter day!

The shock of your situation will wear off and then you will feel better.

Give yourself time to cry and time to heal. Don’t rush it.

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sweetlike-chocolat offline Verified User (2 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
US | 2 years, 5 months ago (24 minutes after post)

it would help if i could speak to someone else that this has happened to but i don’t think anyone else is disgusting enough to do this. thank you for the support and i just hope this pain will go.

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MiZz_ChEeKi offline Verified User (2 years, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Warrane, 06, AU | 2 years, 5 months ago (32 minutes after post)

Don’t be surprised. This hapopens to alot of families. Usually the older woman (your mother) feels flattered by the attention she is recieving from the younger gentleman (your bf) This is no excuse for what she did. If I were in your position I dont think I could handle myself either. All I can say is these two people have a total disreguard for your feelings and maybe thats ok to them. Just think, are they feeling the same pain as you? Probably not. So why waste your time worrying about them when you can do so much more in your life. It might take you a while to trust again but you will and you will find a beautiful person to share your life with. If you are going to get yourself upset everyday over this you wont have a very happy life at all.

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2 years, 5 months ago (32 minutes after post)

Two words. Jerry Springer.

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 5 months ago (53 minutes after post)

I think i might be pregnant i am 13 so under age and
they wont sell me a test in the pharmacy both my parents are really religious and will kill mw if they find out i am no longer a virgin. I am naseus, haev weird cravings does this mean i am pregnant?? What should i do??

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sweetlike-chocolat offline Verified User (2 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
US | 2 years, 5 months ago (1 hour, 36 minutes after post)

so many people have said jerry springer to me and its true i feel as though ive been pushed into a soap opera. i just want to say thank you for the support

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☆miss lilies☆ offline Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 271 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 5 months ago (15 hours, 32 minutes after post)

just wanna say i am sorry that happened.

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Christina Sponias offline Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Athens, 35, GR | 2 years, 5 months ago (19 hours, 20 minutes after post)

Dear sweetlike-chocolat, forgive your mother because she didn’t know what she was doing.
I studied many tragedies because I lead with craziness. Your mother was not the person you knew, she was dominated by the wild side of her conscience, which is very violent. This is the archaic conscience we all have inside our psyche. It’s a content our human conscience ignores and it is always trying to provoke craziness to our human conscience in order to take its place and control our behavior. When the invasion of this wild content in the human conscience is complete, the individual becomes cold, a crazy murderer without human feelings. You have to have pity of your mother because she is a wild animal without feelings, without moral, without anything human in her soul. It’s very sad, but it happens all the time. We never know when this wild content will arise and invade our human conscience. It starts suggesting us many things, giving us many crazy ideas in order to “solve our problems”. We cannot understand we start following our wild side’s advices, which are only against us, because this is a trap. If we abandon our moral principles, we open the doors for the monster.
This archaic conscience is still as it was in the beginning of its formation, since it didn’t pass through consciousness and it is always trying to destroy our human conscience. Our human conscience is the conscience we know, and that respects moral rules.
Craziness is a very common disease in our world, because the human being is mainly crazy, since the biggest part of his psychic sphere belongs to the archaic conscience. Our human conscience is a tiny cover for the old violent monster.
It’s very easy to loose our human principles and fall in the trap of the wild monster we have inside us.
Have pity only in your hart!…
Both your mother and your boyfriend lost their human conscience. What happened with them was not love. They are victims of their wild side. They’ll regret very much what they did, but it is already too late. Have pity of them!
What they did to you was murder. They killed you, because this wild content only kills. It has to learn to be human through consciousness. It’s a long process… So, what happened is that you are a victim of terror. This terror didn’t come from the people you knew however, but from their wild side, that only provokes terror. They killed themselves too. They are not going to be happy together… What happened with all of you was only destruction!
If you believe in God and you have some religiosity it would help. Read my articles about depression and suicide. You can also take a copy of my free ebook. Check about it if you think it will help you. Ask me anything you want!
Now you have to show to the world how strong you are. For now on you have to be mature, serious, and very wise! Your work will save many people. You have to do something to help other people, now that you understood how awful it is to be a victim of terror… You are not the only one. Look around you. In which world we live? Terror, violence, immorality, hypocrisy and many more horrible things are part of our daily life on Earth. Think about many people that live under wars, without food, full of blood… Think about people starving, people without medicine… There are so many victims of terror in our world!
Now, with your sad experience you have to be the hero that will save humanity from terror. Of course, you are only a human being, but you are going to do your part. Don’t think that this sad experience happened to you because God abandoned you without pity. Don’t think that your life ended because this sad event happened to you.
It was the beginning of your new road. The new road of your life, through which you’ll do something to help this world become better and people live happily, without mistakes, but with goodness and wisdom in their harts and in their minds. You have a lot to do! This world needs you! Now you are sensitive. You are not like the ignorant people that never saw terror happen in their lives. You know what it is, so you know you have to do something to give an end to this tragedy. There are many things you can do to help many people that suffer in this world! You don’t even need to go far. I’ve being helping many people during many years. People have very sad problems! I’m not supposed to tell you other people’s problems, but I know stories worse than yours. I’m only telling it to you because you said that nobody else can have that kind of story in their lives… You are only one among billions and billions of victims! So, do something about it! Help this world! We need people sensitive that will really do something to help everybody instead of caring only for themselves.

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Gvle, 03, SE | 2 years, 5 months ago (1 day, 16 hours after post)

Well, **** happens. Somebody wrote about your mother being flattered and so on. That is probably right, but it is no excuse for betraying her own child.
And your boyfriend? Well, we are no animals but we have animal instincts. Civilization is a measure of how successful we are in surpressing many of our instincts, because we have learned that we end up in trouble otherways. A good boyfriend chooses to see only you, whatever other feelings he may experience. Up to a certain point, where he finish his relation with you in a civilized and social manner before going on with his life.
Now this guy seems to be an ******* - be glad that you discovered it now and not twenty years from now! Then about your mother - I don’t know what to say! I can understand that her head may be turned upside down by the opportunity, but not to a such price!

But the most important, and this is my message: You wrote that you cannot trust again. Don’t let that happen! Trust is absolutely neccessary to be able to love. I have been badly hurt a number of times, because my trust in somebody that I loved made me vulnerable. But that is a choice that I made - how can I even hope to get loved, if I do not trust a person?

It is also a matter of how you see things. My wife had another guy, secretly, already when I met her. She kept him during our marriage, and I knew nothing. Discovered correspondence showed that there was a plan of waiting out his children to grow up and move out, before they would become a couple. She kicked me out, along with the kids, after 16 years (but landed in trouble because that guy didn’t want her when it became serious). It spoiled my life and economy. But worse, it spoiled a lot for the kids!
At first I felt like she had taken away 16 years from my life. But I soon realised that it was so wrong! I would not have had those three wonderful children without her. I was also happy during those 16 years! She was not serious, but I did not know! And the present realisation that I was cheated all the time, will not take away those 16 years of happiness!

So, you probably have a lot of good memories from your relations with your mother. Keep and honor them as you should, and look at the woman who left with your boyfriend as a different person. She probably is, anyway, by reasons I do not understand. Miss your mother like if she died (maybe it is not even irrevocable), but do not let this kill your ability to trust others!

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molotok offline Verified User (3 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 7 #
Gvle, 03, SE | 2 years, 5 months ago (1 day, 16 hours after post)

…strange site… two words became censored, and they were not even bad! USA is full of hypocracy, engages in a lot of uncivilized habits (capital punishment, violation of human rights, you name it…) but does not honor the daily language of its own people…

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sweetlike-chocolat offline Verified User (2 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
US | 2 years, 5 months ago (1 day, 17 hours after post)

thank you for the support, i now know that i am not alone and iam beginning to realise that this could have happened in a much worse situation, i cant imagine how i would feel if i had kids. i dnt think i could carry on. i already know that my mother was and is not the same person when i saw her for the last time. but she has not contacted me and i no many people are telling me to forgive her but even if i wanted to i really can’t ever forgive for this. she is in a very strange state of mind and if she thinks i will accept her being with the man i love she is strongly mistaken. i mean she is moving in with him now. i found that out from my dad. it is forcing me to go and live in Spain, (this is where my parents lived) as i will have to live with my dad and cannot afford to live in the U.K, it is far too expensive. Images of them in bed together is driving me crazy i cant sleep or eat or function properly and if i did not want to feel like this then believe me i wouldnt. the last words in which she said to me echo around my head ‘’you want what you cant have'’ she told him she will give up everything for him and she has and doesnt give a ****. i hate her for what she has taken from me and my family. ive been told by a friend who didnt know what had happened that she had seen them shopping in the mall together????? he wouldnt evn get out of the car to come in the mall with me wen i was with him????what the **** is going on???

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molotok offline Verified User (3 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 7 #
Gvle, 03, SE | 2 years, 5 months ago (1 day, 17 hours after post)

Hey there, you deserve more than this! Don’t feel bad about imaging them in bed - try instead to forget the images of yourself in bed with that (a whole bunch of censoring stars..) guy!
He wasn’t for you, anyway! You may have had some nice time together with that person you thought you knew, remember the nice times but not him! He would have cheated you later anyway.
This is not the time for forgiving your mother! Just let some time pass! She is not there for you just now, that’s all! Even if it is hard, try some indifference until the perspective gets clearer!
Look at some bright sides as well! How old are you? I guess that you speak Spanish, and this gives you two countries with milions of good guys to choose inbetween.
Is it too bad to be close to your father? You can try to do some nice things together, supporting eachother instead of both becoming bitter.
It is probably not so funny to leave your friends for another country, but that is the only disadvantage I can imagine about swapping UK for Spain… Sweden is not too bad, I would not exchange it for UK. But I would hesitate less than ten minutes if given the opportunity to settle in Spain instead.

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Christina Sponias offline Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Athens, 35, GR | 2 years, 5 months ago (1 day, 19 hours after post)

Be superior sweetlike-chocolat! Read again everything I wrote you. This is the scientific explanation for what happened. If you won’t forgive, you’ll suffer more.

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Christina Sponias offline Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Athens, 35, GR | 2 years, 5 months ago (2 days after post)

Later you’ll be able to understand and forgive.

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MiZz_ChEeKi offline Verified User (2 years, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Warrane, 06, AU | 2 years, 5 months ago (3 days, 5 hours after post)

Dear Christina,

I was just reading your little article above and tend to disagree. You first said “forgive your mother because she didn’t know what she was doing”. Thus you are saying its not her mothers fault. How do you know she didn’t know what she was doing? What type of excuse is that? This woman purposely tore her daughters heart out and threw it away xausing her daughter a great deal of heart ache and shame. Imagine her next family function what that would be like when somebody asks where her boyfriend is. She will have to respond with” He left me and ran off with my mother” This woman is responsible for her actions as well as everybody else in this world. We all have choices and we all have the right to make our own decision and this woman has obviously chosen her life with complete disreguard for her daughters feelings and well being. Im sure there are reasons why people behave the way they do but I also believe she did know what she was doing. If this was a person who had just killed somebody would you say the same thing to their victims families, “Forgive the killer because it wasn’t his fault he didn’t know what he was doing?” How many people have used that excuse in court? Have they gotten away with it? Has your theory ever acquitted someone of their crime because they didn’t know what they were doing? I personally will never be able to understand what drives a mother to hurt her daughter like this woman has done. How could you ask her to forgive as for the rest of her life she may never feel safe in a relationship in fear of her mother running off with the new one. So much damage can be caused by this womans selfish act, and she should be held responsible.

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Christina Sponias offline Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Athens, 35, GR | 2 years, 5 months ago (3 days, 14 hours after post)

Dear Mizz Cheeki,

I understand how you feel and how this girl feels. I don’t know if you could read the scientific explanation for what I said. We have to forgive everyone because the human being is mainly crazy, since the biggest part of his psychical sphere belongs to the wild conscience that was not transformed through conciousness. It’s very easy to lose the tiny human conscience we have… We have to forgive everyone because it’s very easy to become crazy losing the tiny part of our conscience that was developed a little bit. That woman killed her daughter with her actions because she lost her human conscience. She didn’t have the moral notion of her actions; she must be considered completely crazy. Our society doesn’t understand many things about the human behaviour.
Do you think that we can find justice here, the way things are? In a court or on prison I don’t think we can find justice…
There are many points we could discuss. I’d like to talk more about everything you said if you have time later, because now I have to do something else, I can’t write more. I just wanted to tell you also that we that are trying to give our support to those that are suffering have the moral obligation to help this girl forgive her mother and her boyfriend because hate is a poison.

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Christina Sponias offline Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Athens, 35, GR | 2 years, 5 months ago (4 days, 18 hours after post)

Dear sweetlike-chocolat,

I’d like to offer you and your family my constant support entirely free of charge. After that tragic event you need psychotherapy. Please, send me a message giving me your email, so that I may send you my ebook Wisdom, which will help you and your family, especially your father that is older, to accept this suffering without revolt.
I read about you. You’ll learn now to read, to study. I know you hated school, but this kind of study is different. I’m going to give you also my ebook about dream interpretation as a gift. You’ll see that you can overcome your depression and your nervousness and help many people feel better like you, even though you are a victim of terror.
Your mother and your boyfriend were not themselves, they became crazy. If they would do only crazy things you wouldn’t think you should consider their actions as if they were human beings that had conscience of what they were doing, but a crazy person is able to do many things in a perfectly normal way. So, we that observe crazy people cannot understand how crazy they are unless they do something like what your mother and your boyfriend did. Forgive them because they were not really your mother, not your boyfriend, but a monster that took their place. This monster is inside every one of us and provokes craziness because it is our old, wild conscience that was not transformed according to human characteristics like the part of our conscience we know. This wild part is totally ignored by our conscience; we don’t know this content exists inside us. Forgive your mother and your boyfriend because they were victims of craziness, and start learning everything I’m going to teach you.
You are young and you have health! You can find a man that will love you and respect you forever; you can have a big family and live happily helping other people live happily too. Don’t think that this tragedy in your life is only a big destruction that killed you forever. This is the point from where you’ll start your path to wisdom and happiness, after facing despair. My email is (email removed) and my site is www.booksirecommend.com you can read there my free articles about depression and craziness. Start learning, because you have a lot to learn. You’ll love to learn everything though, it’s not going to be like the lessons you had at school. Now you’ll develop other sides of your personality. Please, accept my help and start feeling better because you are not alone! Send me a message, I’m your friend. I’ll tell you my story. It’s not better than yours…

Christina

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DGZ offline Verified User (2 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Walsenburg, CO, US | 2 years, 5 months ago (5 days, 1 hour after post)

OK I seriously hate being this way, but her mother and boyfriend made a concious choice to betray her. She has a right to be angry with them and not make excuses for that kind of behaviour. You can not forgive someone if you do not think they are at fault. Making excuses is bullarkey. It only allows them to think that they can continue down that road and its ok because they are crazy, drunk, addicted, whatever. Bullpoop. People need to take responsibility for thier own actions, and the people that they harmed along the way need to stop enabling them by making excuses for them.

The original poster doesn’t need excuses. She needs to be validated and only after her betrayal is validated by herself and others can she possibly move on. What I mean by validated is recognizing that it did happen and it hurt her.

Don’t make excuses saying ‘oh they were crazy, so you should forgive them’ forget that bunch of psychobabble crap. The girl has a right to be pissed. She has a right to hurt. And she will get to that point where she can forgive them, but not until she has went through the stages of grief (and yes, there is grief because this kid lost a lot–her relationship with her mother and her boyfriend).

I agree that she needs some therapy..someone to talk to…that she will not find on the Internet. However, I absolutely refuse to let anyone diminish this girl’s pain by telling her to forgive them because they were crazy. They knew what they were doing. You don’t just spread your legs, dump your whole family, and not know what you are doing (short of extreme psychosis).

It will probably take a long time for sweet chocolate to forgve her mother. It took me a decade, at least. And you know what? Sweet chocolate doesn’t need to forgive anyone until she is darn good and ready too. I mean, they haven’t even apologized yet. Besides, forgivness for others will only come when she forgives herself. I know those stages—low self esteem, feelings of not being good enough, worthless enough to deserve this kind of treatment….just on the brink of suicide but not quite there….Sweet chocolate needs to understand that it was not her fault she was betrayed in this way, and that it is not her who caused this. Only then can she even think about forgiving someone else.

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Athens, 35, GR | 2 years, 5 months ago (5 days, 2 hours after post)

Dear DGZ,

I understand your conception, but things can be better if we learn the scientific side of everything and if we learn how to recuperate our energy after being so smashed by a tragic event against us. Anger doesn’t help us in any way. We better learn how to accept our suffering without revolt.
I’m just trying to help because I’ve helped many people in situations like this… Usually people feel much better with my support; they really find relief, because dream interpretation is the best existent psychotherapy for everyone. You have to examine it in order to form your opinion.
You’ll see that the human being is very complex and that he really doesn’t know what he does when craziness invades his human conscience. This is a reality our society still has to learn and to accept so that we may prevent craziness and impede tragedies like the one that happened with sweetlike-chocolat continue to happen in our world. Her mother and her boyfriend didn’t know what they were doing because they lost their human conscience. They didn’t have moral values, responsibility, anything. We have to have only pity of them: they are wild animals without moral notions and without feelings. This is a tragic reality; it’s not an excuse for their crazy behaviour.
I believe we here on help.com have the obligation to help this girl forgive her enemies and continue her life without hate in her hart because hate is a poison that will continue to kill her. But if she’ll understand what happened she’ll see that there is no meaning in hating crazy people that are not responsible for their actions.

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Warrane, 06, AU | 2 years, 5 months ago (5 days, 16 hours after post)

How about learning the moral side Christina? Where do morals come in when it comes to science? I say in this case, screw science, her mother betrayed her. I am a mother and I could not possibly do anything so serious to destroy the relationship between myself and my child in such a way. Im sure other mothers and fathers out there agree with me. We are here to protect our children from such hurt and anguish. I would rather scratch my own eyes out than hurt my child like this wonam has done. There is no forgiveness, 110 points to you if you can. I never could. I couldn’t live with the guilt either.

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Athens, 35, GR | 2 years, 5 months ago (5 days, 18 hours after post)

Hi Mizz Cheeki!

Thank you for discussing this problem, so that sweetlike-chocolat may read what we are discussing here, because she doesn’t want to forgive her mother and her boyfriend.
I think you are absolutely right concerning the way a mother has to be with her children, but you have to understand that this mother became crazy; she didn’t have the notion of what she was doing. I’ll give you an example to show you what I mean. When my son was at high school one of his classmates died because her mother killed her! It was a big scandal here in Athens! The girl was a bad student and she often disappeared from home and from school. Her mother was fed up with the problems she had with her daughter, and certain night she strangled her while she was asleep! Do you think she should to go to prison? No, she didn’t. She was locked in a psychiatric clinic and she is having there a treatment, because she was considered completely crazy. She didn’t have the right to kill the girl! If she was not happy with her daughter she should let the girl live somewhere else, the way she wanted to, even though as a mother she had other plans for her. What sweetlike-chocolat’s mother did was exactly the same! She killed her daughter in a very violent way! She must be considered as crazy as the woman that strangled her daughter!
And her boyfriend killed her too. We are not paying attention to what he did because what her mother did was worse, since she had the moral obligation to care about her daughter much more than her boyfriend.
Shall we put them in prison or in a psychiatric clinic?
With the notions I have, I believe they must be treated because both of them are completely crazy. That’s what I’m telling you.
Shall sweetlike-chocolat hate them because they are so crazy? Or shall she forgive them and only have pity of them because they are crazy murderers?

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US | 2 years, 5 months ago (5 days, 23 hours after post)

Hello it is Laura, look christina i have to say that i am agreeing with everyone but yourself. they both knew what they were doing to betray me and my mother has crossed a line which should never be crossed with her own daughter. i can learn to put it behind me but never can i accept her back in my life. Pain is an understatment and i want to move on with my life not invite her back into it only to mess it up once again in the future. My ‘’Mother'’ was completley aware of her actions before she carried them out. I have recently been told about her apparantly leaving her dressing gown open when he was around my house to encourage him.(This was 6 months ago!!!) and they have only runaway together 2 weeks ago and i have not recieved no contact from them - not that i would want to! All i can say is that is absolutely disgusting actions of a mother. She is not no mother she has to earn that and all she has done is thrown it away. After what has happened has sunk in i am not prepared to let her back in my life only to mess it up again. The last thing i want is to find another man i am happy with for her to try and make another move. In the last year that i spent with my boyfriend she has been encouraging him, this is why forgiveness is not an option, she was completely aware of her actions and to sleep with the same man as her daughter when she was happily married with my dad out in spain, we go on holiday and she is coming back with us on the plane with it all planned. It is a long story but i no her intentions were cruel and she has hurt many people by doing what she has done. it is completley irreversable. The worst thing is she is your average short dumpy blonde woman and he is the stereotypical half jamaican guy that gives them all a bad name. They will look absolutely ridiculous together and i dont want to be in my home city for people to see them and say to me what they hell is going on with your mother??? it is an embarrassment.

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Athens, 35, GR | 2 years, 5 months ago (6 days after post)

Thank you for your message Laura!

Later you’ll understand that your mother was crazy a long time before this horrible thing happened. Schizophrenics, psychotics and neurotics can hide their craziness perfectly well and seem to be normal people, while they are completely absurd. What I’m telling you is that you shall not consider your mother as if she had notion of what she was doing because she was dominated by the wild part of her psychical sphere that is completely crazy, but this crazy wild part of our psyche can also seem to be balanced in many points.
Of course your mother didn’t become crazy suddenly. Of course there was a plan that prepared the tragedy, but it was not made by your mother’s conscience. The wild part of her conscience can think and prepare traps, push everyone to do horrible things… This wild part provokes craziness in the human being. You must consider your mother only crazy even if she seemed to know what she was doing.
I helped a man that lost his wife because she committed suicide. She jumped from the last floor of their building. She went there several times in order to prepare her suicide. But can we consider that preparation conscientious? She was already crazy at the time she was planning her suicide. I’m showing you this reality to help you understand what happened so that you’ll stop considering your mother as if she was a conscious human being. She was a sick and wild monster.
Later you’ll be able to understand what I’m telling you. Now you are too hurt…
I don’t want to make this message too long, but I just wanted to tell you a little bit of my story. My father was crazy, schizophrenic, but he could work and he had a lot of money, so he could pay everyone to just agree with him in Brazil, where people are too poor. I’m only ashamed of my father, the same way you are ashamed of your mother, but I forgive him because it’s not his fault to be a monster…
If you wish, go to my site and contact me from there. I can send you my ebooks. They are going to help you for sure. I’ve helped more than too many people. I wouldn’t bother you if I didn’t understand that I have the obligation to help you in this tragic period of your life. I’m used with craziness and many horrors.
I helped a friend that not only was horribly betrayed the way you were, but that also was victim of an attempt of murder against him. I treated him for 5 years, as a friend. I never ask for money, I help people as charity.
I was cured from schizophrenia interpreting my own dreams, so I know their power. I know I have the power to help desperate people with dream interpretation, so it’s my obligation to help them.
However, don’t worry if you don’t want to learn what I’m showing you, I can understand you. Perhaps later you can do that, whenever you’ll feel that knowledge can help you.
If you still think I’m wrong, forgive me for not being successful, but I was only trying to help you the way I can. Each one of us here is trying to do something for you.

Christina

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Athens, 35, GR | 2 years, 5 months ago (1 week after post)

Dear Laura,

I’m reading the revision made in my new ebook about the free and safe psychotherapy through dream interpretation and I read a part that is exactly what I was trying to tell you. So, I copied it thinking that you would like to read it and perhaps understand what I was trying to tell you, so that you won’t suffer so much with the revolt you feel each time you think about what happened.
I’m insisting on showing you what happened exactly because this way you won’t suffer hating your mother. When you’ll understand what happened you’ll stop feeling revolted. You’ll calm down, accept the tragedy and stop thinking about that.

“Many times we have very strange, terrible surprises, when a person we know shows us a behaviour that is completely opposite to their beliefs, and they hurt us very much with what they do.
We have to keep in mind that the person that is hurting us is not the person we used to know. There is no person in her conscience, nothing human there anymore. There is only an ancient demon in their place, which has no feelings.
This is more than terrible! However, we have to learn the truth, so that we won’t die, believing that a person that we loved betrayed us and did many awful things against us. We have to understand that another being is acting in this person’s place: their wild, evil and crazy side.
This wild side can only be cruel and violent, as a lion can only be cruel and violent! We cannot expect better behaviour from a lion, as we cannot expect better behaviour from people that have lost their human conscience.
The only thing we can do about it is to prevent craziness before it is too late. Most cases cannot be cured if the human conscience’s destruction is almost completed, not even if it is in the beginning because in our world most people are evil, so they push everyone down the same road without return.
There are ways to cure even a schizophrenic and help him/her recuperate his/her human conscience until certain point, but the patient has to agree to suffer a lot with this transformation. The indispensable suffering required is so unbearable that it cannot be considered as a possible medicine for these cases.”

Please Laura, go to a psychologist, have a treatment. You need it without any doubt, because what happened to you was very serious and you have to get rid of this trauma now, instead of carrying it inside you throughout your life.
If you need anything from me, you know how to contact me. I’m going to let you think now and I won’t send you any other message.
Forgive me if you feel I’m bothering you and you don’t agree with what I’m telling you, but I know exactly how you feel and how much you need support.
Find a good psychologist and have a therapy. You’ll feel much better with his help!

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Gvle, 03, SE | 2 years, 5 months ago (2 weeks, 4 days after post)

Puh, I think I am getting crazy…

I usually say “Live and Let Live” but Christina PLEASE, don’t promote your e-books right now! This is just adding to something already traumatic. It doesn’t matter how good intentions you have, this is not the time - probably not even the right decade in time for a show off!

If you take the world’s ten leading psychologists and pychotherapists (or almost any other branch), you will find conflicting views. That means that you may consider yourself as a specialist in your field, and I can still say that you are flat out wrong in this given situation.

But we all have a sense of right and wrong. Life is complicated and we do not have to make it more complicated. We learned fairly well the do:s and don’t:s, how to behave, what is right and what is wrong.

Now something happened that is utterly wrong, no matter how you twist it. It divided a group of people, a family, into wrong-doers and victims. It is so easy to distinguish between who is who, for any sensible person!
Sweetlike-Chocolat is biased and there is no reason to have her thinking about this in a non-biased way! She is angry and she is hurt, and she has all the reasons for being so. I don’t hesitate to say that it is even healthy to be angry and hurt in her situation, anything else would be abnormal, freaky! She has the right to cry, to shout and whatever you call poison. Keep in mind that a small amount of poison is often used medically and saves lives! Too much of everything kills, even water, but I think that she reacts both normally and healthy.

The number of victims will probably rise, because the two wrong-doers will hopefully end up very disappointed in the end. I see the logic and justice in that, too.

We live for our children, to me it is the very reason for being around. I cannot imagine how the brain works in a woman who betrays her child in this way. As for the boyfriend: if he is stupid enough to do this, sweetlike-chocolat should at least be happy that he is gone. I’m against all types of violence, but I would still feel (a very healthy) ease in frustration if I knew that somebody gave him a very uncivilized punch on his nose…

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Christina Sponias offline Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Athens, 35, GR | 2 years, 5 months ago (2 weeks, 6 days after post)

Dear Molotok,

Thank you for your message! Forgive me because I’m answering only now, but I was in Mykonos (Greece – now I’m in Athens where I live) with an adored friend that came from Brazil, and I arrived two hours ago. Only now I could read your message.
Thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to explain that I would never ever in my life use a tragedy to promote my ebooks! I’m not giving my help to sweelike-chocolat because I want to promote my work!
I was only distributing my free ebook Courage when I received a message from help.com and then I started to understand how this site works, even though I didn’t have much time to read everything… In the third day I was here, this tragedy happened with sweet- and I felt so sad learning what happened with her, that I didn’t know what to do to show her how I can help her!
I believe I’m a person that can help her because I’ve being helping many people to deal with tragic events, craziness, depression, suicide, etc for 17 years now, after learning which is the unknown content of the human psychical sphere through dream interpretation and many scientific researches. I’ve studied dream interpretation more than 20 years.
Everybody else in this site hates sweet’s mother as much as she does, and nobody here can understand me when I tell her that she has to forgive her mother because she was craziness’ victim. She was in fact preparing her suicide…
We have only to have pity on her because she is completely crazy, even though she seems to have notion of her actions.
If sweet will let me help her, she is going to forgive her mother and her boyfriend, forget them forever, develop her own psychical sphere and discover her inner power and hidden capacities. She is going to have a peaceful and beautiful life. This tragedy will help her become a real hero and her work will be blessed! She is going to solve many problems of our world and she will help many people, because she will learn all the truth about the human being, the same through that made me help so many people on despair, not only entirely free of charge but also spending money to give them my support as a friend. I’m doing for sweet exactly what I always do for everyone that is on despair, only that through the Internet this time. I’m not promoting anything. I even wanted to give her my ebooks entirely free. I hope she’ll have the interest to read them… Of course you can consider this action as a way to promote my work… This is not my intention right now, in this case. I agree with you when you say that this is not the proper way to do it, but it may seem to be my intention. I hope you’ll be able to understand the truth.
I only wish sweet will read my words now and will agree to let me help her, because what happened to her was too serious and I’m afraid she is not going to find the help she needs. I’m promoting the wise unconscious that produces our dreams and saved me from schizophrenia. The unconscious is the real doctor; I only decipher its messages.
Anyhow, I already said too much and it’s late.
Thank you again for your long message, because you showed sweet your concern! I hope she is feeling that we are sad and we want to help her.
I also hope sweet will understand some day the meaning of my words, if she can’t understand then now.
This is not the first time in my life I say something completely different from what everybody else is saying… It’s not easy to say the truth when it’s not like everybody else thinks it is… But the truth is that we shall not burn sweet’s mother, because she is completely lost on craziness’ labyrinth.

Christina

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