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I am going crazy it hurts so bad.
i feel so NOT OK about myself.
i never ‘got it’ - i don’t know how to meet people - i feel so isolated and alone.
i really don’t know what to do.
telling me to relax, be more open etc WILL NOT HELP
i need to feel ok about myself
i need to be confident.
my parents never showed an ounce of caring humanity i never learned to be social
my parents are mentally ill and i learned their dark miserable l,onely view of life…
please don’t tell me to get medicated or therapy - I am doing both and they haven’t worked.
i need to learn how to enjoy people meet them connect with them
i need to BECOME A NORMAL HUMAN BEING.
i am so scarred and damaged all i wanna do is cry
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Then cry.
Cry your heart and break things and scream.
Then have a glass of water, take a shower, go to bed, and try again the next day with all your heart to succeed.
Well, it’s a start that you are here.
Go on the chat section and just start talking to us.
Hell, you can shout me through this system and I’ll talk to you.
No one is born social, it all comes from the environment that surrounds us.
Of course, it’s easier to be social on the internet, but gradually, when you start feeling more confident about yourself you can take what you feel and go out to the real word.
But, let’s start small for now.
My name is Nic,
What about yours?
thanks - i cried 7 times so far today - from the moment i woke up. i am sorry but i do not see how i will suddenly be able to ‘try with all my heart’ tomorrow.
nic - i was born into non-social HELL (as described before)…
how do you get over feeling like you’re going to be a total *** if you say ‘hey whats up?” to some gal in a club?
call me
Kal
No, but everyone has to start somewhere Kal.
I can’t really compare my situation to yours, but I’ve always been really shy up until 2 years ago.
Like I said, you need to start small.
Ok… so your goal is to be able to just start talking and interacting with anyone that approaches you, right? Whether at a party, work function, cute girl at the bar…
Well, guess what, you already have the opportunity, but you just never realized it.
Do you go out to restaurants sometimes, with friends, or do you do your own groceries? Or get coffee’s at coffee shops?
Then start talking to the people that serve you. Make small chat. Nothing intense. Talk about the weather quickly, current events. They will never not talk back to you… Want to know why? Because they are paid to be friendly to clients/customers, etc… Now, it might seem like they might be fake, but it will give you a boost in ego and start making you feel more at ease! Guaranteed!
Or, you can just start here….
well, mind you, I have to get to bed, but I’ll be on from work all day tomorrow, if you want to talk, kal. Ok?
It takes all your courage to say hi, but you got to do it even if you feel like a dumbass.
Then you won’t regret it.
so alone - crying now. how do you make friends? how do i learn to give love when i feel so unworthy? i have so much to give but i am so afraid to risk - i think cos i was simply an imposition to my parents who never paid attention to me never held me never said they loved me never gave me discipline or guidence or accountability…. they just ignored me. now i suddenly woke up to see that not everyone is terrified of social situations, unable to speak to strangers,
DON’T TELL ME JUST DO IT
Well that’s the only ******* way it’s gonna happen.
Otherwise you’re gonna be miserable.
You can’t learn it, you just got to do it.
That is the first step, deal with it.
Well Kal, I’m talking to you, so say something to me.
It’s social, and it’s over the internet so you have nothing to lose.
I’m not telling you just do it Kal.
I’m telling you that the opportunity is there. Only you will be ready to do that when you are ready.
For your own personal issues, I do not have a remedy for that. All I can tell you is that.. .look, what are you doing right now? Aren’t you talking to perfect strangers?
(Side note, confirm your email address so that we don’t loose you ;))
I honestly believe that there is good in everyone and that, and that we can all change the way we are if we truly want it.
But the fact that you are hear, you will meet a lot of people who will lend you a helping hand, gratefully, and without expecting anything in return. There is always someone that will care, even if you can’t see it right away ;)
i was replying to mr anontmous’ nike commercial soundbyte remedy.
you advice shows some actual understanding. I DO make contrived small talk to IMPROVE my skills and it DOES help - it becomes not contrived and I often enjoy the conversation.
the nameless faceless ’socializing’ of the internet doesn’t compare (for me)
See, then there is a start and there is hope for you.
I may be wrong, but, could it be that the environment that you grew up in has made you scared and fear rejection from others? Could it by those reasons that you feel that you can’t really talk or communicate with others?
It will take time. Time, effort, and practice.
There are really no set rules for making friends. Some of the best friendships can come out of the most unusual circumstances. One of the best ways to make a friend is to BE a friend. As for the love part that you are worried about, it will take time and effort as well, but it will come with time.
Are you seeing a therapist right now? Do you have a job (where you could possibly make some friends)?
Have you ever heard of Toastmasters? here is their website http://www.toastmasters.org/
You could also try www.meetup.com to help you find people near where you live that you may share similar interests with.
mr anonymous - huh? you don’t know me. standard ignorance of the ‘everything is equally easy/hard for everyone’…
would you expect a great chess player to laugh at you because he could beat youy every time? would he expect you to be abvle to beat him anytime you wanted to? NO - we are all different and all face our own demons issues and problems based on our makeup and experiences. whats easy for one is hard for the next.
i think YOU are bullshit - please stay off my thread. thx.
Why are you ok talking on the internet then? ‘Cus you can’t see a person’s face?
please stay off my thread.
http://help.com/post/82755-this-is-ha…
Posted this a while back. Thought it might help.
thanks - this is what I am getting from ‘ontological coaching’ life coaching in general -ontological in specific. the solution is basically dealing with ‘how you being?’ in every moment. I highly reccomend ‘coaches’ for anyone at their wits end with pills/shrinks/counseling/religion…. whatever. it IS taking me slowly forward. I am very emotiuonal. and impatient.
Kal.
Well, as long as you know that you can’t expect changes from one day to the next, you will do fine.
Being emotional is not a bad trait to have. It is one that shows honesty.
You are on the right path, and you are doing more than you think to help yourself. The fact that you’ve reached out for help wherever you could find it and you are getting help back just shows that there is always someone that will believe in you.
As for the impatient part, well, that will change in time. like the saying goes :
“Rome wasn’t built in one day.”
well, if you are coming here, you do have hope for yourself. you do know something’s wrong, you do want to be help. you want to help yourself. many people endure life-crippling tragedies like you endure, and i’m not sure i can say anything different from the advice given above me, but all i can do is assure you, you haven’t lost your humanity. i’m no more human that you are. you are probably even more so than i because of what you’ve gone through and how you’ve still survived, still emerged with hope still intact, the desire to live, no matter how hopeless or deluded you might think yourself to be.
before trying to reach social butterfly, work on yourself first. find something you’re good at. drawing, painting, piano, photography, guitar, writing, dancing, sculpting, singing, whatever you can get your hands on. or find something you love, can truly enjoy, with every inch of your heart. music, theatre, nature, animals, you find it yourself. try pushing those dark thoughts not to the back of your mind, but FROM your mind, and focus on the little things that make you feel satisfied. observe other people and find what makes them happy. couples who go on walks together, musicians who play with their whole heart and soul, parents who dote on their children, owners who fawn over their pets, the dumpy old man who smiles as he feeds the pigeons, the artist who become absorbed in his or her work, the people who come to watch the fireworks or stars…
look for beauty. if you look for it, really search for it, you will find it.
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 4 months ago (14 hours, 44 minutes after post)
Kal, my name is Jeanne. I know what unworthy feels like. I didn’t have much guidance during my childhood either.
You have a Masters in Music . . . obviously you are accomplished, you surf . . . you must be around people and in tune with nature/your environment.
Cognitively you must KNOW you are capable and valuable. FEELING it is a different ball game. Hey, I am learning how to FEEL worthy myself, it SUCKS. It hurts, because you know what, I NEVER felt loved or worthy, never got that reinforcement from my parents . . . I learned to survive, but I want to FEEL worthy, not just cognitively rationalize that I am due to my accomplishments. I have had people love me and it made me CRY, cry tears of PAIN because it was SO UNCOMFORTABLE. (not a place that I had learned to be ‘comfortable’ within) Damaged, broken, ****ed up . . . yep, and that made me ASHAMED! very very ASHAMED which circled right back around to unworthy. Man, it SUCKED, seemed helpless.
Guess what, it is not helpless. I liked the first response: cry, break things, scream; just don’t hurt yourself or others, DO IT: CRY, BREAK THINGS, SCREAM . . . I did alot of that, would scream at the top of my lungs from the core of my soul, while driving my car on the freeway . .(crazy, psycho woman) But, it released that stored energy. When I felt like it I did it, I embraced that ****ed up place, was present in it and fought back by screaming. Honestly, it really helped and I cried more tears than I care to share. Curiously, the pain diminished - over time - and one day I had an ephifany . . . there really are people in my life who love me and care about me. I could FEEL it. One day, I actually noticed that I FELT happy just to be alive, for no reason, I just felt happy, it was fleeting but it happened.
I am still learning to feel worthy and more fully love & care for myself and not be self sabatoging. Coming here and experiencing people caring about me, giving their time and input to try to help me is a safe place to feel cared for, I can cry because it hurts, I can acknowledge it is uncomfortable and I can learn to be comfortable within the caring. I can take this into my life outside the internet. I can feel comfortable within the caring of the people in my life (without burdening them with the tears of pain whilst I learn to be comfortable at this new place)
Kal, you can do it. You have to work through the emotions you are having. They will disipate, releasing you to move to a more pleasant emotional place. All this coming from the de-throned Queen of Pain.
Give it time, Friend, be patient with yourself. Jeanne
P.S. Authentic self confidence is a by product of process. Release the pain, make space for the good stuff . . . self confidence, love, friendships, trust etc, etc. Buy a punching bag, you can release the negativity on it.
Food for thought: depression is anger turned onto oneself. anger is a superficial emotion. below anger is: fear, resentment, hurt, disappointment. if we have these emotions over and over as a child and are never able to acknowledge (know) them and they turn into anger . . which we are not allowed to express (because our parents are mentally ill) . . . we turn it upon ourselves and become depressed, feeling unworthy . . .etc, etc, etc.
I am hoping to provide you with some tools and keys that have helped me. Good Luck, you’re worth it.
bye now, Jeanne
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