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Do You believe there is life after death ?
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Nope. But then, I’m agnostic, so I don’t really have any beliefs. It’s a possibility, and one there is no way to prove nor rule out. This is sort of a personal decision, you need to decide what you believe.
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (1 hour, 3 minutes after post)
I would respectfully disagree with Xeno… it’s been proven there is life after death… death as we know it. It has been proven that we, the human form is mostly ultimately energy. If you drill down into the layers of humanity… past the cellular level… past the molecular level… into the atomic, and sub-atomic levels, you find…mostly energy. It has also been proven that matter and energy never die, they just change form. So, while we don’t know what that changed form feels or does…or even knows (that is where faith comes in) we do know that there is something after the death that we know if.
That’s energy, Rich, not life.
I side up with no one and everyone. I can’t really tell. But I definitely won’t spend more than 2 minutes of my life thinking about it. I am here, I live as best as I can and according to my morals, and then we’ll see :-)
If you’re asking this as an excuse to sin… then just sin, and pray it doesn’t happen (actually, don’t pray at all.)
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (1 hour, 10 minutes after post)
Yes, perhapes I do need to concede to that Xeno… but there is a HUGE perspective that without that energy, life as we know it would not exist. That energy is not comprehended by us (otherwise we’d be walking through walls and such), but it is still the core of what is our life. I don’t know know the science behind decomp. but when it finaly gets to the sub-atomic… and that energy is released… what happens?
Life requires energy, but does not consist solely of it.
The energy disperses, like any other energy.
In my humble opinion, I believe there is a Supreme Being (SB) and when presented with choices throughout life you make them for the universal good,and when you die, your spirit moves on in some way. The body is molecular and the spirit is energy. The body is buried/burned at death, but the energy does not cease to exist, it moves on guided by the SB.
I frequently wonder what is Heaven. I don’t believe that it’s some magical place, but perhaps it’s a continuing quest to learn wisdom thru experience. I am not sure there is ever a true final resting of the soul/spirit with the SB or that you are plunged into H3ll. I think retribution is the pain your soul goes thru as you move along in your journey.
**shrugs** Bennet199 you have it right - just live the best you can, you can’t run from death, it will happen to all of us.
no1 really knows the answer. i believe u can never run away from ur problems, such as if u smoke the problem never goes away. if u take drugs they don’t make the problem go away. so, if u commit suicide, that is escaping the problem. therefor, wud the problem go away then?
By that logic, praying is equally useless, Florencethomas40.
how do u mean?
It’s not solving your problem, it’s passing it on to another, even if you believe in a god. Therefore, you’re running from it, just in a different way.
thats kinda what i mean. commiting suicide is running away from ur problem. smoking is escaping the problem, but after what u do its still there. so im considerin, cud it apply to suicide as well?
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (2 hours, 2 minutes after post)
well… the question is, is there life after death. The answer has been proven by physics to be yes. ALTHOUGH, no one yet knows exactly how, or where the energy morphs… it’s only proven that it does morph.
I’d like to see the proof, if you don’t mind, Rich.
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (3 hours, 24 minutes after post)
Ack Xeno… I’ve been browsing the web for the 30 min. trying to find the “suitable proof” for you. Knowing full well, I’d be discounted for using the Internet as a source, but it’s all that is available to me right now. Trust me if you search for Energy Matter, never dies just changes form… you will get a Plethora of responses. Unfortunately, finding one that looks scientifically credibal is difficult. Why is that? because it was an Einstein theory in physics DECADES AGO. I’m so surprised you need some sort of proof. First there is E=MC2… I KNOW you’ve heard of that… it basically means energy equals matter and matter equals energy. It has been adopted as more than theory for DECADES. From energy come matter, and matter will return to energy. The long and sort of it, I don’t know what kind of proof you want. Do you want me to lift my hand and change it into pure energy with the will of my mind? I can’t do that. If you want documents… google it… you will get a ton of responses.
I don’t think there is. I think it’s important to live the life you have now because nobody knows if there is an afterlife or not, they might say they do, but it is just a belief they have.
Rich,
You are assuming by your response that when you die, the potential energy of your body has to go somewhere, when in reality it can remain as potential energy. In other words, a huge boulder sitting on the edge of a cliff could be used to create tremendous amounts of power, but it could also go on sitting there forever.
All Einstein was talking about was potential energy.
Please note that I am a Christian, and I do believe in life after death. :)
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (4 hours, 28 minutes after post)
lol… thanks Gimli. Yes that is true, and I thought that’s what I said, I meant to. The energy released by our death, does not die (based on Einstein physics) BUT we do not know what becomes of it. That is why we still ask, is there life after death? The answer is yes, without a shadow of a doubt, but don’t ask me how, or what, ’cause THAT is a matter of faith/religion/spiritual belief. If you want to know my believe I can share that, but nothing more.
Rich, you’re right in every way, but for one. You’re equating the energy created after we die and as our bodies decompose with life. If energy were all it took to have life, your computer would be alive right now.
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (8 hours, 14 minutes after post)
ahhhhhhh I see what you are saying. From a pure physical sense, energy is not “LIFE”. True. And I guess that is where my belief comes in? I believe we are spiritual creatures… with a core of energy, and that the Geia of everything starts with that same energy, and is alive. (yes to some extent, even the computer) Based on E=Mc2, that’s not a big leap, but I guess for some it is still too big a leap to take… OK :)
Xeno - serious question - if energy is just energy does that mean we don’t possess a soul? What makes us feel passion, love, excitment, sadness, etc? If matter is just matter - how can that be the brain, yes science supports that certain parts of the brain control but how is it that we feel so deeply? (I don’t know if I am asking this so it makes sense?) it surely isn’t the heart if you are speaking from purely a technical term.
I believe that when God comes He’s going to take us to Heaven with Him. dunno what you consider that.
not anymore
To answer m.i.ss.a’s question:
Life –noun 1. the condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally.
Jade-
Chemicals can do funny things to a person’s brain. As for your first question, “if energy is just energy does that mean we don’t possess a soul?”, I don’t KNOW what it means, Jade. No one KNOWS. I’m agnostic, so, before I will have an opinion on an issue, I need to see proof. There is no proof as of yet regarding the existence or non-existence of souls. Therefore, there’s nothing to base an opinion on other than what one’s been told by others who are equally as clueless as anyone else on the subject.
Thanks for the response Xeno - so it’s the age old - blind faith question…choose to believe or wait and see? I respect everyone’s beliefs.
I elected long ago to believe there has to be something bigger than us and that when our bodies died, our lifeforce, soul, energy continues on somehow. I guess when I stand outside and watch the beauty of nature and life, there has to be more than just a bunch of molecules and atoms banging around together to create it all.
That my thoughts and feelings are more than just mere organs & chemicals at work, but that there is something else behind it all, a soul that wants to be better than it was yesterday.
You are right, there is no hard core evidence that the soul exists, and I don’t make my decisions to believe or disbelieve based on others reasoning.
As for chemicals doing funny things to a person’s brain - I grew up in the 70’s & 80’s so yeah, you definitely have a point there, LOL.
To expand on that answer…
Those chemicals include hormones, adrenaline, dopamine, and all sorts of others. They can make you feel very deep feelings, and do very strange things. If you look hard enough, everything has an explanation, and so far, no reliable explanation I’ve seen has been supernatural. I’m not discounting anything, I’m simply stating what I’ve seen in my own religious/scientific studies, and in these debates, as I’ve been through a lot of each.
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