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Should hospitals have to treat people with no insurance?

Such as say, Illegal immigrants?

If so, if you dont think they should, should you have to help foot the bill?

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meows3999 offline Verified User (2 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Denver, CO, US | 2 years, 4 months ago (2 minutes after post)

Hospitals have to treat anyone who goes to the hospital. Wheather they have insurance or not.

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the_girl_you_knew offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 11 #
Nottingham, J8, GB | 2 years, 4 months ago (3 minutes after post)

well, im in the uk so we have free healthcare, but it does annoy me that there are people who dont work and dont pay anything into the system and still use the services. they are overstreched enough.

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kludo offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 17 #
US | 2 years, 4 months ago (14 minutes after post)

excellent observation Meows, but the questions is SHOULD they have to, and if so, if you disagree with how much free health care is given away or pushed onto the tax payer, should you have to help foot the bill ?

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kludo offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 17 #
US | 2 years, 4 months ago (18 minutes after post)

Personally, I think it should be a case by case basis, if someone continues to return to the hospital with no insurance and needs treatment they should have to help by all means possible, be it volunteer work, something, and for the people addicted to drugs who constantly have to be treated because there health has diminished so drastically, i think they should be refused service.

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the_girl_you_knew offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 11 #
Nottingham, J8, GB | 2 years, 4 months ago (20 minutes after post)

yeah same with smokers and alcoholics in my opinion.

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NYWadjet offline Verified User (2 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 10 #
Greenwich, CT, US | 2 years, 4 months ago (47 minutes after post)

YES! If I have to pay more taxes for it to stay that way or to better the system, so be it. There are reasons why it should be this way, Examples: In case of infectious diseases non treatment would only propagate the disease and can cause a epidemic and/or a pandemic. In the case of diseases that can cause life threatening complications (think in the line of diseases such as diabetes)it hampers at the very least the persons quality of life and can cause death, It also can cause other implications such as: Decrease of productivity, breakdown in the economy, increase homelessness, increase in orphans, etc. Now let think of preventive medicine if there were no federal programs to assist the uninsured (which is a big problem in the USA and not at all limited to those that do not have legal documentation or status to reside in the USA) things like giving birth, vaccinations, HIV, Addiction, Mental Health, etc. what would the country look like after a period of time (could be a year to five) Bodies everywhere, after birth and fetuses in trash cans (if we are lucky) or curb, sickness everywhere and add to that the ussual pests (roaches, flies, rats, etc) and now disease is infiltrating the insured and well off. Even if you do not encounter any of these pests in your immediate surrounding there surely will be other diseases that will stem from these condition and find their way to your food source and then what.
Last and not least if not for the people you don’t know doesn’t it feel good to know if you or your decendents (children, grandchildren) need to use the system (you never know one can become uninsured, addicted, etc.) it is there.

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kludo offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 17 #
US | 2 years, 4 months ago (2 hours, 22 minutes after post)

NYWAD you make a lot of good points, however your missing what I am aiming at.. Some people need treatment and they get it, I am mostly speaking toward the abuses of the system that is in place at this time. I dont think drug addicts should get repetative treatment when there condition is caused by there failure to drop the rocks, I have very little understanding or compassion and absolutely no problem letting them die, So that better health care can be given to those who need it.

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not el Trent offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Gibsonia, PA, US | 2 years, 4 months ago (10 hours, 59 minutes after post)

i don’t know what the perfect solution is, but i think it’s safe to say that the situation right now in America isn’t it.

(i’m assuming we’re talking about the US here…)

did you see michael moore’s last movie? i didn’t, but i heard him make this point in interviews, and i think it says it all:

how much sense does it make, the way things are now? you go to the hospital, sick and desperately needing treatment. the doctor looks you over and says, “yes, this is what’s wrong, and i know what to do to make it better. Which i’ll do… hopefully… um, hold on a moment.”

he then gets on the phone to some guy in a cubicle, miles away. THAT guy decides whether or not the doctor is allowed to help the sick person, not based so much on the diagnosis of a medical professional, but rather on the state of the sick person’s money.

… so, to answer you: yes, or at least, hospitals shouldn’t choose who to treat BASED on insurance.

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starlite offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
Auckland, 00, NZ | 2 years, 4 months ago (14 hours, 44 minutes after post)

There are some people who think should go to the bottom of the list when it comes to medical treatment. They include those who are DIC of a vehicle and are injured because of this. All to often I have seen these people get treatment before the victims that they are responsible for injuring.

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lucichcar2 offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 50 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 4 months ago (2 days, 3 hours after post)

I think everyone who goes to the hospital shoulg get assistance, but like u said, peoples should pay what they got, in some way.

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andersaspe offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
Dublin, 07, IE | 2 years ago (3 months, 2 weeks after post)

Medicin (healthcare, dental care, maternal care, geriatric care, psychiatric care etc etc) to me is a human right and should not be paid by anything else but through the tax-bill, there should be a high level of care available for all citizens regardless of their paying capacity in the stage of life they are in at the moment. A new born baby has not had time to save up or pay in a lot of money in a insurance policy and the baby is definitely not at fault if its parents didn´t. Same thing goes for someone who is down on their luck financially, this can or can not be their own “fault” but regardless of that, they should have medical care as anyone else. I do not think that there ought to be any shortcuts for those with a lot of money to the public care. If you want to pay extra to have a private room or TV etc. then that is your choice. But to be able to pay to jump the line or get better (more expensive) treatment is in my way of thinking wrong. Similar systems have been working in the Scandinavian countries and Western germany for many many years and they have been working fine. However now they are getting more and more Americanized and that is a pity.

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