Bit of a random one, but does anyone else believe that dragons used to exist?
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Well, there has been no fossilized evidence of them. So, I’m going to have to go with a “no” on that one.
…then they wouldn’t be dragons.
I think that you are on to something there, Hemming. I don’t know that there is any way to tell for sure, but there are some first hand accounts of some strange creatures if you look at some of the old historical records. Dragons, as we understand them, maybe not. But the accounts might have been of creatures that led to the dragon myths…
I agree with Gimli. This dragon stuff gives me excitement and awe. Imagine if those guys actually existed! I’d feel better about living this life.
I was bored earlier and started looking at the origins of myths and mythical creatures, and there seems to be quite alot of evidence for…
Dragons are creatures of imagination and myth brought to life by literature. In the same token, there are some fictional human characters in books who I wouldn’t mind believing in, either. Let’s not cap it at dragons, only.
i believe that flying reptiles existed. breathing fire doesnt seem likely. but “flying dragons” that dont breathe fire seem alot more plausible considering man has continually found fossilized evidence over centuries. Either that or a great grand joke started back in the 1600’s all the way to now, involving lots of paper mache and plaster-of-paris.
I agree Mariner, there is something exciting and actually quite romantic about mythical creatures
Rook,
I’m not disagreeing with you, but there’s plenty of current evidence for animals that can combine chemicals to make light. It could have happened…
I live in devon in England and we have alsorts of mythical stories and legends I just can’t believe that there is no truth in any of them
except for the hairy hands maybe, that one is a bit freaky, especially when your driving across dartmoor at night in the fog!!! I choose not to believe that one LOL
i watched a program once on discovery channel where they found a fossilized dragon and used it to prove all the theories. it was really interesting. i thought for the longest time it was all true lol.
no, it was an “if we found this…. this is what we’d do” but they made it seem as if it ACTUALLY happened. I tuned in late and missed the beginning where they said it was all a make believe show.. that is why i was so confused.
I was kiddin sorry, If there’s no eveidence we can’t say yes or no unfortunately :(
Don’t you think that the legends are evidence? And whilst we are on that subject how do we know what to believe as crestfallen pointed out. even the most convincing footage doesn’t necessarily have to be real! Science, Myth Religion it is all based on belief really.
hahah crackhacky… poor crackhacky.. “Oh look, dragons are confirmed!” .. “oh .. wait.. nvm” :-)
lol, myth isn’t evidence, cold hard facts are, some ppl choose not to believe certain facts… (ehem, I think we know what I’m gettin at) but a fact is a fact whether you believe it or not and it will be around long after you are.
Okay… I really dig the concept of dragons, but no. There would have been some sort of evidence, and there just isn’t.
rook, I was actually telling people about it after i watched it…
Question? All of these “Cold hard facts” have any of you actually seen them for yourselves?
There are no facts either way. I don’t believe they existed, and I don’t believe they never existed. I hold it open as a possibility, but until I see proof, I’m not saying yes or no.
Im on about things that people would claim to exist/be real/true based on “Cold hard facts” Most of us have never seen any cold hard facts. we are told that there is evidence through the media so we believe them and calim these things to be true?
Not me, I look things up before I accept them as facts.
look them up where? in a book on the internet? are you claiming that there is no way that like crack happy you have been dupped? that the words of some one you dont know makes it fact? that there is no possibility that these people could be wrong?
If a new species is discovered, scientific journals everywhere would be in an uproar. It’s not that difficult to separate fact from fiction if you’re sceptical from the start and know where to look.
not really into conspiracy theories but there is a chance that these “facts” could made be conjured especially for the masses?
Yeah, sure. If you don’t know where to look, and don’t cross-check anything.
Sorry that came out wrong, what I am saying is the bits that you choose to cross reference and come to the conclusion that they are fact, could not be wrong.
I hope that makes sense
I don’t look at one page and decide based on that. Forty unrelated pages from reputable sources can’t all be wrong.
Of course they can, there are plenty of examples throughout history of large groups of people believing the same thing turing out to be wrong. I am not dissing you I just think that we should all accept that what we believe is exactly that. Belief.
do you think that they were spurned by ancient travellers tales? komodo dragons for instance?
hemmingt wrote:
Of course they can, there are plenty of examples throughout history of large groups of people believing the same thing turing out to be wrong. I am not dissing you I just think that we should all accept that what we believe is exactly that. Belief.
I don’t believe, I learn. I look at facts, nothing more.
hemmingt wrote:
do you think that they were spurned by ancient travellers tales? komodo dragons for instance?
Possibly. But the fish tale concept is probably more accurate when combined with ancient superstitions.
I think that they did. For example, how is it that so many ancient civilizations could have stories or artwork of them that are much the same and came about vefore these civilizations even had contact with eachother. And as for cold facts, so many things can be played with in the human brain. Generally people see simply what they seek to see, and deny what’s in front of them if it goes against their thoughts. However, I’m not saying that dragons existed as the highly romanticized beings that people think of today. They were probably, I think, more just animals, without being specifically evil or good or magical. I can’t say that I’m some highly educated pereson that must be right, but I believe very strongly that dragons were at some point real.
That’s a very good point, Anon, and I agree, to an extent. It is by all means possible, but as there’s no proof, we can’t really say for sure. Very well-put, though.
back to the thing about facts. I’m really not dissing. I just think that most “Facts” are actually someones theory. A fact to me is something that I have physically seen/touched.
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The fish tale concept is best explained by the phrase, “it was THIS big”. People see something that’s amazing, but they embellish their story over time, and the fish they caught that was, in reality, three feet long, becomes nine feet long when they tell the story. The same applies to other animals, events, and even plants that early explorers in particular told stories about.
Oh yeah I get ya I think that the fish tale is a great explaination of the dragons and the other mythical beasts.
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Bit of a random one, nut does anyone else believe that dragons used to exist?
I still am skeptical about alot of the things that we accept as fact. Sorry Xeno.
Most of the science stuff is still based on theory. I’m not saying they aren’t right just questioning whether we should accept it because they say so.
Hmm. I’m not sure you understand my position. I ONLY trust facts. Anything else, I may have an opinion on, but I don’t ‘believe’ in. There aren’t many things that are fact, but they’re the only things I trust without doubt. And, if I were to be proven wrong, I would accept that, as I would then know what the truth was. If you require proof for everything, you’re never wrong, because you only accept things that are proven facts. See?
yeah you believe that what they say is true, thats the same as trust. I am on the same page as you here Xeno. I would like to believe that there were dragons though. LOL
Oh, me too. But it’s only a theory, so I can’t believe it. I know what a theory is and what a fact is, I don’t mistake one for the other.
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Are we then going into if fairies exist or not? hahaha
They definatly do!! Especially in the westcountry! And they are forever nicking my socks.
My position is the same on everything. Prove it, and I’ll accept it.
Saint George the Dragon Slayer (more proof of Christian BS) was proclaimed as a saint for slaying a dragon. Who is to say that T-Rex heads weren’t laying about in them days. If I brought you a skull of a dinosaur that would seem like a dragon to most people ~smiles~.
I believe that dragons exist, but not on this particular plane, however the fact they were imagined means they exist on a plane somewhere ~smiles~.
Please do not slate my beliefs occult this is not about christianity. And I agree what if they were describing dinosaurs?
If they were describing dinosaurs, then it wasn’t dragons. It was dinosaurs.
we only call them dinosaurs because that is what they have called them over the last 200ish years what if before that they knew them as dragons?
Then they’re the same thing, and they’re now known as dinosaurs.
Water, agua, mizu…it doesn’t matter what you call it, it’s the same thing.
Note to self: Water Fairy makes lousy defence against giant Pyro Dragon.
Not ness, xeno but you could be right. If the stories originated from dinosaurs
On another note do you reckon that there could really be a secret wizard world?
hemmingt wrote:
On another note do you reckon that there could really be a secret wizard world?
Avada Kedavra!
I don’t know about dragons existing. I like the idea though. Fire breathing dinos.
well of course they did!
still do im told…..in the mountains of romania;)
hmmmm i think dragons were deffo not real, but dinosours just mabye cudda been???
i belive in the tooth fairy tho lmao!!
lmao what about santa????
i belived in him once untill i found my mam drinking his milk and eating half his cookies lol, what a sly woman xx
lol interesting what your parents want you to belive and make you belive these days.. but they always end up being found out lol, i wish santa was real tho, i think christmas would be so much diffrent if he was lol xx
once,. my mam asked me to go to b&q to buy some spotty paint for the passage way!
OMG how stupid was i??? lmao
tht was just so she could rap my presents up without me spying lol
***Xeno Dragon eats manbearpig*** No, you’re half man, half bearpig. All of which are food items of dragons. lol
There was an Animal Planet show about this some time ago. Made it sound pretty convincing that dragons existed. Still doubt it, though.
CrackHacky wrote:
i watched a program once on discovery channel where they found a fossilized dragon and used it to prove all the theories. it was really interesting. i thought for the longest time it was all true lol.
We know. :)
Puff is alive and well. He grows…grass…in a land called Honalee. :)
I’m gonna tell my kids that Santa is an alien from outerspace sent to steal their toys. Then every Christmas I can take away toys instead of giving them. That oughta screw ‘em up quite nicely….
lol
I saw the Dinosaurs exhibition from all the dinosaurs found in China (the exhibition was called the Dragon Bones at Royal BC Museum). There is one dinosaurs that has extreme long neck and I believed people probably unearthed the head and neck part, hence the dragon myth started. They probably mixed the long neck bones with some Tuojianggosaurs head (carnivor similar to Allosaurs, Albertasaurs slightly smaller kind of T-Rex) to make it ‘look’ like the Chinese dragon.
Pterodactyl could be pretty big too and could be the source of dragon myth, the Western Dragon type (with bat wings but bigger).
Dragon’s of course did exist. It’s fairly well accepted that during the biblical flood, dragon’s were excluded by Noah on the grounds of fire safety. The rest is history really, the dragons along with the two unicorns that arrived late, entered the long list of extinct species. Hope I’ve been of help.
Just because we can’t find any physical evidence of something that existed does not mean it didn’t truly exist. Remember all evidence comes from archeological digs, which at best is hit or miss at what has been preserved and what is gone forever. Many species that were around back in the ancient times are now extinct, who’s to say some a couple random species of dinosoars not killed off yet still hid in dark caves, or swam around big lakes like some lonely loch ness. If they were around, every macho man in any village would be trying to figure out how to kill it, so any ones left would’ve been quickly hunted into extinction. Maybe someday we’ll be lucky enouch to find one that fell into a bog, got buried in a volcanic eruption, or deep in sand, but til that time, we can all just wonder…
CrackHacky wrote:
no, it was an “if we found this…. this is what we’d do” but they made it seem as if it ACTUALLY happened. I tuned in late and missed the beginning where they said it was all a make believe show.. that is why i was so confused.
I did that once to a dinosaur show on the discover channel and was totally flipping out, they were like keeping dinosaurs in like a zoo of sorts, then they got this little time zapper thingy, and went back in time to get more of them thats when I knew it was fake, but it was so life like, they had really great graphics people i mean it looked as real as like steve erwins shows
I don’t, but ****, do I wish!!
Dragons are just winged dinosaurs and dinosaurs went extinct, so I think they were real.
DO DRAGON’S EXIST? I am looking at one this very minute. Next question.
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