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Could some1 do me a great honour by explaining sonnet 116 simply by shakespeare :) thanku!

Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth’s unknown, although his height be taken.
Love’s not Time’s fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle’s compass come:
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.

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beautybaby1 offline Unverified User #
Halifax, NS, CA | 2 years, 3 months ago (23 minutes after post)

that is beautiful

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green_eyes offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (23 minutes after post)

I think he is saying that love lasts forever, ‘even to the edge of doom’, and if he is proved wrong, he has never written and no man has ever really loved, which is obviously false as he has written many a play and sonnet. By saying this, he is using his own work as a foundation and saying love is as true as his written word. He is questioning love over time, its steadiness and lasting. Even though time passes, love still remains. Love never goes away, it cannot be removed.
At the beginning of the sonnet, he seems to be saying love isn’t real, he doesn’t believe those ‘true minds’, and wants them to admit it isn’t real. But then he says ‘O no! it is an ever fixed mark’ meaning he realises it is always and will always be there. Then he talks about time with his ‘compass come’ and that time doesn’t change with his hours and weeks, but it lasts forever.
He is stating the trueness and lasting of love.

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green_eyes offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (40 minutes after post)

I couldnt have written it better myself C+C!

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Naska offline Verified User (2 years, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 Add Friend #
An Unknown Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (1 hour, 12 minutes after post)

Shakespeare is describing unconditional love. (Or at least how I see it.)

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Louisville, KY, US | 2 years, 3 months ago (2 hours, 6 minutes after post)

I agree with almost everything everyone has said…although I have a different understanding about the first line than green_eyes. Shakespeare says “let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediments” - which means, to me, that he does not think there are any impediments that could get in the way of people who are truly in love. This whole sonnet is about unconditional love - no “impediments” can get in its way, nothing can remove it, nothing can change it, not time, not any kind of “tempests” or problems…it will endure ANYTHING (even to the “edge of doom”!) and he is saying (like green_eyes said) that if someone can prove him wrong on this, then he has never written a line (which we know to be untrue), and furthermore, that no man has ever really loved.

I love Shakespeare…

green_eyes offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (3 hours, 27 minutes after post)

ah, i didnt read it like that…that was the only line i had problems understanding what it meant! cheers crestfallen

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 Add Friend #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 years, 3 months ago (18 hours, 32 minutes after post)

“that if someone can prove him wrong on this, then he has never written a line (which we know to be untrue), and furthermore, that no man has ever really loved.” thanku so much for whats written so far. im a little confused here in the quotes.

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green_eyes offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 3 months ago (18 hours, 35 minutes after post)

what are you confused about? He is basically saying that if someone can tell him that love doesnt exist and that no-one has ever truly loved someone, he will say that he has never written. Now obviously he has written many many works, so in relation to that, many many people have truly loved.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 Add Friend #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 years, 3 months ago (19 hours, 31 minutes after post)

thanku so much. makes more sense!. but why wud love be as true as his word??? and i know these lines mean ‘Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove’ that love goes through anything, even through any alters and it still carries on. im confused with ‘Or bends with the remover to remove’, why is that????? but thanku for what uve written. its been useful so far.

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Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 years, 3 months ago (20 hours, 57 minutes after post)
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crestfallen offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 Add Friend #
Louisville, KY, US | 2 years, 3 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

“or bends with the remover to remove”

If it goes away when someone tries to remove it, then it isn’t love. Is that what you’re asking?
As for love being as true as his word, I guess it’s just supposed to show that this is how strongly he believes in this interpretation of love, and it’s kinda like he’s saying “if this isn’t true, I’ll eat my hat!” or something like that. Does that make anymore sense?

Thanks green_eyes :) I guess the in-depth Shakespeare studies I took didn’t go to waste! lol

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 Add Friend #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 years, 3 months ago (3 days, 16 hours after post)

thanku

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