[Help] Understanding the Meaning of Self-Abuse Updates to this post /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:15:28 +0100 Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3466737 Hi Betta!

Thank you for your message!

You can believe whatever you wish. I already explained many times in my articles that the real doctor is not me, but the wise unconscious mind that produces our dreams and regulates the functioning of our body. I’m a psychologist and a dream translator - the real medicine is done by the unconscious mind that knows everything about everyone.

I help everyone understand what the unconscious is showing them and overcome their problems.
I can also give everyone directions based on my knowledge of the human nature.
If you prefer the hospital doctors, go ahead and trust them. In the case of self-abuse they will help you too.
Later you can start learning how to interpret your dreams in order to avoid future psychological problems.

Have a nice day!

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Christina Sponias Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:23:05 +0100
Reply from betta /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3466060 Sponias, Mittens has not posted in ages. Someone else quoted something he or she said. No one believes you are a real doctor who works somewhere legitimate like a hospital anyway. Your just some woman who writes things on the internet and is trying to get her drivel published.

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betta Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:06:10 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3463878 Hello, Mittens!

This is a very old post. I even stopped visiting this site because I feel sad with your aggression against me while I try to help you.
I wrote many other articles about self abuse, but I didn’t post them here.
If you want to read them, please visit my site: www.booksirecommend.com You’ll learn the meaning of craziness if you read my articles with attention and devotion.
By the way, my last article about this matter had success. I can see in my author’s page at the Ezine that it had many readers and a few of them visited my site. It is entitled:
How to Stop Cutting today – The Solution
and here is the link, for your facility:
http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Stop…

In a while another one will be published, but it has to be first of all revised.
Visit my site regularly if you want to read my articles and learn how to protect yourself and how to get rid of the absurd tendency of self-abuse.

Dear Pellandfamil,

Only now I read your reply because I stopped visiting help.com.
Thank you for explaining me how you interpret cutting. This is the way that the anti-conscience is making you judge this behavior.
Please, visit my site and read all my articles about mental health and craziness, suicide prevention and depression and you’ll certainly understand everything and trust me, because I’m not inventing anything.

My discoveries are real and I’ve helped many desperate people, with problems that were quite worse than cutting.

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Christina Sponias Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:40:23 +0100
Reply from helen /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3463752 [quote MittensInSummertime]Okay.
Look.
Like I’ve said before, perhaps you are right.
But repetitively posting things like this is extremely rude, and not at all unlike religious posts that are trying to sway you to a faith or things like that.
What is crazy, anyway? Define crazy and get back to me. No, I’m not looking for a dictionary definition. Define the mental state in your own words.
As much as you’d like to think otherwise, this will remain your opinion until it is proven. Not everyone will believe the same as you. Accept that and move on.[/quote]

you are SO right. i dont cut, but some of my friends do. Are you (Christina) REALLY just trying 2 get the message out, or is it like a cult
“NOOO! do not harm yourselves!”
seriously

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helen Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:43:17 +0100
Reply from pellandfamil /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3375558 I am no longer a teen and have long since cut but I remember exactly why I did cut when I did it. It had nothing to do with seeing the blood trickle down my leg, or arm, or hand or whatever I chose to cut. It had nothing to do with a wild, rebelious, teenage side of my psyche. As well it was not because I was a sadist, nor crazy, nor even self-masachistic. Speaking for myself, I know these as truths. The reason that I cut was that I hurt so much inside that I felt as if I was suffocating in a blanket so wet with sorrow, shame, guilt and remorse that I thought I might die and I felt as if no one would acknowledge the pain that I was suffering. The thing about feelings is that they are for the most part invisible and only the truely gifted can really delve into the depths of anothers soul and capture what it completely means to be that other person. Much of the time the cutting I did was just a physical manifestation of a small portion of the pain that I felt inside. It was something that I could show and others would acknowledge unlike the pain that was every fiber of my being during that time. Other times I cut to prove to myself that I could still feel pain, that I was still human and that I still did exist. And still other times I cut to prove to myself that I could no longer be hurt and that I could control what I felt. I did not find fulfillment in cutting but I did find some relief in it and sometimes cutting felt like that deep gulp of air you take before you hit the water not knowing when you will come back to the top. I don’t condone it but I do understand. It is those who cut that perhaps need the most help. Much of the time I think it is because the person cutting is feeling so much pain within that they don’t feel that they could hold anymore inside and need to have it spill over to thier physical body.

I won’t judge you, I have only read the paragraph above, however, you seem to make many assumptions but I don’t believe that you understand and I wonder if you have ever been to that darker than dark place. I am a survivor of that place and I hope to never be back. I wish you luck in your search for understanding. I agree with you that most teanagers don’t understand why they cut while they are cutting but I think that if what you are trying to do is help these kids to stop hurting themselves, then that it is probably detrimental to call them crazy. More than likely they are suffering from a psychological disorder and more than likely it is severe depression but to call them crazy suggests something more. Think back to your college education and remember your english classes on emotive language. Perhaps you should dial it back.

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pellandfamil Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:23:50 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3250889 Thank you too, Mittens, for your participation!

I had to talk with some of you that abuse your bodies and see which your reactions were.
Now this is not necessary.

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Christina Sponias Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:05 +0100
Reply from MittensInSummertime /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3250838 Thank you.
That is all we were asking in the first place.
Just to stop posting your articles.

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MittensInSummertime Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:34:58 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3250796 Dear Friends,

Here is the last article of this series.

I may write more articles about self-abuse, but I won’t post them to Help.com because we are not having a dialogue here – you are only attacking me.

So, if you want, you know how to find my site and read my future articles about this matter when I write them.

I hope you think about everything I showed you, even though you don’t admit it when you talk with me.

“The Suicidal Tendency of Cutting”
http://EzineArticles.com/?id=841004

All the best for everyone!

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Christina Sponias Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:09:15 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3240666 This is not a competition Bluecat.

I’m trying to help depressed teens that abuse their bodies as an action of charity. I have nothing to win in this story, I’m only helping you because I feel I have the moral obligation to do so, with the knowledge I have.

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Christina Sponias Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:38:48 +0100
Reply from Bluecat /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3240652 betta owned you.

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Bluecat Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:32:08 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3240612 Thank you.

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Christina Sponias Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:09:45 +0100
Reply from betta /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3240604 And to add to all the work you do with your patients you still have time to post on this site! You are like Jesus on ecstasy!

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betta Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:05:06 +0100
Reply from betta /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3240603 So with what you have told me about your accomplishments, you started your work in literature and philosophy (undergrad 4 years). You are now a psychiatrist (3 years med school, 3 years residency and specialization), and a psychologist (Masters 1-4 years, PhD 1-3 years, certification). You are the first person I have ever heard of who is both a psychologist and a psychiatrist, and you have found a cure for psychotics and schizophrenics (though schizophrenics are by definition psychotics). Not only that, but you can do it without them even wanting or accepting your help. This and the discovery, along with rock hard undeniable PROOF that all human beings are crazy from birth. Sponias, I think its time someone nominated you for a nobel prize.

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betta Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:03:50 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3240554 I’m a psychologist and a psychiatrist because I can cure psychotics and schizophrenics that don’t cooperate with their doctor: they don’t relate their dreams, they don’t say the truth, they hate the truth and they hate their doctor… Everything with them is impossible.

Their psychotherapy is too long, but at least they stop suffering so much for being too revolted.

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Christina Sponias Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:36:48 +0100
Reply from betta /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3240549 I don’t find relief in self abuse. I am not a cutter. I can see how others find relief in it though. It is the transferance of emotional pain into physical pain, and the sense of having something you are in control of.

What exactly are you a doctor of, and what do you mean by “without their collaboration?”

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betta Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:31:42 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3240533 I’m impressed with your analysis Betta! Yesterday you were only aggressive.

The relief you find in self-abuse is a distortion.

If you want to have answers to your questions you have to read many of my articles.
I’m a doctor because I continued the research made by Carl Jung in the psychic sphere. This is in fact a sirurgical operation.
I’ve cured more than many people interpreting their dreams, giving advices or even facing worse craziness, without their collaboration.

I started from literature and philosophy, to find more answers to my questions on science.
My work could not be done by a scientist because the most important part was not to discover the existence of a wild conscience in the human psyche but to help people deal with this reality, help them acquire psychic health and happiness with their psychotherapy. My work has also a very important social meaning.

If you want to understand it better, please read this article:

Schizophrenia and Psychosis Cure
http://EzineArticles.com/?id=780304

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Christina Sponias Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:21:17 +0100
Reply from betta /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3240494 I have my doubts that you are a qualified doctor. You have made a lot of assertions about your experties, as well as a lot of assertions about the nature of mental illness (craziness in the language of the intolerant and insensitive). I think it is time you tell us what your credentials are.

“Yesterday someone left a comment on a certain site after reading my article ‘Teen Help—How to Stop Cutting Your Body’ and I noticed that many teens still think that this problem is not a product of craziness.”

What were their exact words?

“Sensitive and sensible human beings don’t like to see blood falling from their body and they don’t like the pain of being hurt by knives.”

Sensible human beings do not like any pain, physical or emotional. Anyone who has been under intense emotional pain knows that it is worse. Cutting yourself is an easy way to ease emotional pain in a number of ways that I won’t go into, since you are likely the only one here who doesn’t understand this.

“Don’t try to justify your actions as if they were logical because you must see the absurdity and react to it appropriately.”

If there were no rationale for people cutting themselves there would be no way to treat it. Psychology is based on the fact that everything people think and do is for a reason. There is a rationale towards everything, however it can be a flawed rationale.

“Only if you prevent this crazy wild personality from doing crazy things like cutting your body will you overcome your depression and win the battle against craziness and suicidal tendencies!”

Acting out in socially inappropriate ways and harmful ways are the symptoms of mental illness, not the cause.

Perhaps the worst part of neo-freudian tradition is that it does not require much scientific background. You just make up a bunch of stuff like an “anti-conscience that dominates your conscience.” Coming up with explanations for things is not science. The explanations have to be testable, and disprovable.

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betta Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:57:22 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3239832 Dear Bluecat,

If you continue reading you’ll understand the meaning of what I’m showing you.

Here is another article that will give you information about craziness.
The importance of my discovery, continuing Carl Jung’s research in the unknown region of the psychic sphere through dream interpretation is that now we know how to prevent craziness before it starts appearing in the person’s behaviour and we can alleviate the drama of the psychotic and schizophrenic patients, who believe that they are responsible for their actions, while in fact they are dominated by their wild side.

The same wild conscience that provokes psychosis and schizophrenia to the human conscience, provokes self-abuse.

Craziness Definition and Cure http://EzineArticles.com/?id=642987

And finally, here is another article I wrote especially for you that suffer from the tendency to abuse your bodies, in order to help you understand what is happening to you and how you can overcome your problems and live without bleeding:

Self-Abuse-Resistance and Psychotherapy http://EzineArticles.com/?id=833494

I hope I’m helping you, even though you don’t admit it now.

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Christina Sponias Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:40:39 +0100
Reply from Bluecat /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3239818 No one wants your kind of help. Get lost.

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Bluecat Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:24:10 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3238003 Dear Mittens,

I read a lot about this problem, because it was new for me since here where I live the teens don’t have this behaviour. (I’m in Greece)
I know that not only teens abuse their bodies; I know that there are other forms of self-abuse, but I’m not covering the entire problem. I’m trying to help especially the teens that cut their bodies and of course, older people that do the same as well.

Please, understand that I’m trying to help you because I have the knowledge. This is a problem that appeared in my road and I believe I can help you, the same way I’ve helped other people with problems that were even worse.

I’m not trying to sell you anything of course; I simply could not ignore your problem.
I can write articles about more than 1000 subjects all related to dream interpretation, but I believe your problem has to receive my attention first of all because most of the people that abuse their bodies are teens. If the teens behave this way, what will happen to humanity?

This is a very serious problem! I believe that everyone should be alarmed with it and everyone should do whatever they could to help you overcome your depression and stop hurting yourselves.

I’m doing my part; everything I can.

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Christina Sponias Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:17:11 +0100
Reply from MittensInSummertime /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3237852 I am going to ask you to get one thing straight.
It is not only teens who cut themselves.
Self injury is not just cutting.
Do a bit of research on this problem before hearing about it somewhere and taking your own stand and opinion.

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MittensInSummertime Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:59:38 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3237584 Dear friends, I’d like to give you some basic information about craziness since you asked about it.
Please, read my article “Neurosis Definition and Cure”, which is in Google first page if you type only 2 basic keywords (Neurosis Definition), like most of my articles (also at Yahoo!) since my work is really serious.

I continued the research started by Carl Jung in the unknown region of the human psychic sphere through dream interpretation, discovering more dream symbols and meanings and discovering the wild conscience, which Jung believed that belonged to the unconscious side.

The unconscious side is wise, while the human conscience is totally absurd, selfish, ignorant and violent. The wild anti-conscience is even worse. The solution is psychotherapy, peace, wisdom and forgiveness. Never wars, NEVER violence. Violence is craziness. It doesn’t matter if it is violence against others or violence against your own body. It is violence and violence is craziness.

I hope you understand it and stop being violent with your own body. Follow my guidance if you want to learn how to live peacefully. This is free psychotherapy, only because I recognize my moral obligation to help you that suffer due to this absurd tendency.

Please, read my article:

http://EzineArticles.com/?id=623810

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Christina Sponias Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:00:48 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3237258 When my report will be published with all the references, you’ll understand its value, like many people that have being cured with dream interpretation understood it.

If you are a social scientist you should agree with me and help me help the teens that cut their bodies stop doing it.
Even if my work was not scientific, since I show everyone how to live peacefully and win the battle against violence and craziness, everyone agrees with me in this point. Only the teens that abuse their bodies are attacking me.

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Christina Sponias Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:31:36 +0100
Reply from perga /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236939 You have not ’scientifically’ proven anything. I am a social scientist and all that is provided is your own opinion, with no reference to other works or theories, and no PROOF. And by the way, submitting something to a journal means nothing- I could submit this post to that journal. Does it mean this post is accepted by the academic community? Has it been peer-reviewed and deemed worthy of publishing? No, because just submitting it is meaningless unless it is accepted and published.

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perga Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:43:17 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236837 You are too aggressive Betta. However, I forgive you.
If you don’t like what I say, don’t read my posts and don’t follow my articles.

There are many people that can evaluate my work and are grateful for what I have done to help them.

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Christina Sponias Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:48:09 +0100
Reply from betta /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236539 Dear Sponias,

I have seen several of your replies, they are typically unhelpful, and always show no real understanding of the situation. You then usually go on to advertise stupid products or self help books at your stupid web-site. Your lack of sensitivity is that you obviously have no comprehension of why people do things like cut themselves, yet you reply anyway. You take other peoples’ suffering and try and transform it into your own commercial success or egoism.

You are a troll, a douche, and a prime example of some of the scum of the earth. I really hope you get banned, because your malevolence is directed towards the people on this site who need help the most.

Do everyone a favor and just leave.

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betta Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:54:52 +0100
Reply from Bluecat /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236186 You’ve found a cure for schizophrenia? Incredible, I’m sure none of us here knew one existed.

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Bluecat Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:39:44 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236175 If the neuroscientists you mentioned knew how to cure schizophrenics and psychotics I would ask them, but now I believe that they are the ones that have to ask me how I manage to cure these patients.
Wait for my next article, with more explanations!

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Christina Sponias Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:34:05 +0100
Reply from Bluecat /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236164 Listen, Christina, you go ask a neuroscientist to explain to us what the ‘crazy side of [a] psychic hemisphere’ is, and maybe we’ll listen. In the meantime, why don’t you pick up some current literature on brain chemistry and see if things haven’t changed a little since you took Victorian studies as an undergrad.

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Bluecat Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:25:15 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236059 What I tell you cannot be pleasant, because it is the truth.
This is not the first time someone attacks me because I show him/her that what he or she is doing is wrong.

Later, everyone understands that my words were saving them.
The truth is bitter, but it saves, because when you see it, you can correct what is wrong and you can do what is good for you, otherwise you live in your own world of illusions, repeating the same mistakes.

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Christina Sponias Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:18:13 +0100
Reply from Queen of Lost Vampyr /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236041 theyre not attacking, theyre telling you what you are essentially doing, making everything worse.

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Queen of Lost Vampyr Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:09:18 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236019 Sorry, I should say American Psychological Association in my previous post.

If you read what I say but insist on attacking me, it is because you are not paying attention to the real meaning of my words.
I’m not offending you; I’m opening your eyes.

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Christina Sponias Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:54:14 +0100
Reply from Queen of Lost Vampyr /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236016 im not INSISTING, i AM offended, very very offended. but you bore me, im sick of this. i read your articles, posts, all of them, and they are offensive, rude, unhelpful, every negative word i can think of. crazy.. explain, define. see? you cant.

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Queen of Lost Vampyr Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:50:29 +0100
Reply from MittensInSummertime /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236015 For goodness’ sake, try writing a reply that doesn’t look down on everyone you speak to!

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MittensInSummertime Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:50:24 +0100
Reply from Christina Sponias /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3236008 Why do you say that my posts are rude? I’m trying to give you back your life, your peace and happiness.
Craziness is the invasion of the wild side of your conscience in your human conscience. It means that a wild, violent and evil content starts appearing in your balanced human conscience, which suddenly starts having strange thoughts and feelings that are reflected in your strange behaviour.

Hi Queen! You still insist on feeling offended!
I wrote a scientific report proving that the human being is crazy from birth. Craziness is an inborn characteristic in the human being. I sent it to APA (American Psychology Association).

I already wrote another article about this matter; I’m going to post it when it will be approved by the Ezine.
I explain you there how the wild side works and why you have to fight against its domination.

I’m helping you. You have to get rid of this problem.

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Christina Sponias Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:46:45 +0100
Reply from Queen of Lost Vampyr /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3235987 Mittens, thank you. that is EXACTLY what i was thinking, furthermore, i must state again that i am very VERY offended by this, as would be many other users

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Queen of Lost Vampyr Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:37:26 +0100
Reply from MittensInSummertime /post/110401-understanding-the-meaning-of-self-a#reply-3235972 Okay.
Look.
Like I’ve said before, perhaps you are right.
But repetitively posting things like this is extremely rude, and not at all unlike religious posts that are trying to sway you to a faith or things like that.
What is crazy, anyway? Define crazy and get back to me. No, I’m not looking for a dictionary definition. Define the mental state in your own words.
As much as you’d like to think otherwise, this will remain your opinion until it is proven. Not everyone will believe the same as you. Accept that and move on.

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MittensInSummertime Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:32:12 +0100