[Help] Peace out Updates to this post /post/118680-peace-out Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:24:40 +0100 The post was closed by Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-7678797 Richard Cor de Lyon Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:43:37 +0100 The post was edited by Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-7678792 Richard Cor de Lyon Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:43:10 +0100 The post was opened by Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-7154724 Richard Cor de Lyon Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:32:41 +0100 The post was closed by Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-5735308 Richard Cor de Lyon Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:25:02 +0100 Reply from Tuba /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3410929 That is rather helpful - I feel especially gracious to this post because I know nothing about relationships - mine just kind of popped up and I haven’t gotten to really think about it, or gotten any advice. So thanks for the link, I’ll do some thinking about this! I think it will really help!

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Tuba Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:31:37 +0100
Reply from original AKS /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3310664 I sent this to my best friend..he and his wife of a little over a year of having some trouble with intergrating their respective kids.,….this should help..(if they listen)

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original AKS Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:32:05 +0100
Reply from Unnamed Desire /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3310158 ok cool i did

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Unnamed Desire Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:00:05 +0100
Reply from Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3310014 yes and yes…. as a life coach I mentor and counsel. feel free to see my Christmas Card to you and check out my site…

http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/hrp/I…

click on Fun free stuff… and then Merry Christmas to see the care :)

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Richard Cor de Lyon Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:51:33 +0100
Reply from Unnamed Desire /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3310003 is a life coach like a guidance counselor?

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Unnamed Desire Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:47:49 +0100
Reply from Unnamed Desire /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3310001 is a life coach like a peer mediator?

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Unnamed Desire Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:47:19 +0100
Reply from Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3309997 Thank you very much fly… I do like a good debate at times :)

My job is in transition right now. I am a Life Coach… meaning I coach on the biggest team there is. But what’s in a job? There are much better ways to define a person.

Bright blessings ~ Richard

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Richard Cor de Lyon Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:46:13 +0100
Reply from Unnamed Desire /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3309980 those questions were really good i think you should become a poem writer a book writer or novilist and if you dont want to do that i think that you would make a good politician because you would be able to start a debate and have convincing arguements or maybe a judge or a lawyer whatever your job is or is going to be i know you are very or are going to be very good at it and at everything that you do

wow…..i sound like my mother

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Unnamed Desire Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:40:15 +0100
Reply from Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3309098 Thanks for that DL. Living examples of the experience is what we all need :)
Bright blessings ~ Richard

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Richard Cor de Lyon Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:20:41 +0100
Reply from Dragonlady /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3309069 thanks richard, these things are exactly the reason i have been married for 15 years and am still happy

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Dragonlady Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:43:55 +0100
Reply from name with no face /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3308830 yeah… crummy when i figure that out too late… well i guess theres next time…

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name with no face Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:53:01 +0100
Reply from Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3308193 Thank you all… Maximina, that is very true! thanks for the reminder :)

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Richard Cor de Lyon Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:22:22 +0100
Reply from Maximina /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3308013 Very wise advice as always Rich! Thanks! As I was reading it also occurred to me that it is not only important to apply the five As to your relationships with others but also in your relationship to yourself. I will definitely share the five As with my students next semester! :)

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Maximina Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:53:16 +0100
Reply from mauri /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3308003 Blessings back Rich, thank you for this post ;)

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mauri Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:47:28 +0100
Reply from vickierhodesm /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3307990 I really like the 5 A’s and it is true that we don’t take the time to listen espcially to children. In my house when we would all come home the kids used to come out and talk to me about their day when I was preparing dinner. I listened and asked questions so they knew that I was listening to them, and now my oldest daughter does that with her son. It is so important whether you are a child or a adult to just stop and listen because sometimes we forget because we are the so called busy. Stop and take a breath and listen you might be mildly surprised at what you hear.

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vickierhodesm Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:37:38 +0100
Reply from UCreateUrReality /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3307872 Thank you, Aks.

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UCreateUrReality Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:17:56 +0100
Reply from original AKS /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3307618 Good God Almighty..you speak the hard truths, Rich..the victim, so called, is also responsible, of course, for their reactions and decisions after..

Ucreate..all I can say for now is..when I hurt, I hold even tighter to my Honor..it was honorable to tell your parents..now you must…show them the honorable reaction

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original AKS Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:56:34 +0100
Reply from Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3307256 ahhhh Jade, the post is wisdom from many men that have gone before me… what makes this post great are it’s REPLYS!

UCreate, I agree with Jade. If you want to be happy, you have to realize that you are the only one you have any REAL control over to make lasting, positive change. You cannot change another. You can try, but ultimately their change is their choice, you are just fuel to that change. So since I find that this is a truth, then of course I will agree with Jade in saying personal responsibility goes hand in hand with that.

Of course personal responsibility belongs to everyone; it belongs to the pedophile, as well as the little child. Because the little child lacks experience their choices are limited, or their fear limits them. These limits also limit the responsibility. The pedophile is SICK, and thereby makes very bad choices; This a tragedy. Eventually the pedophile gives the experience to the child so they can make the healthy choice, but by then its too late and years of therapy is needed.

This is an extreme example… in our every day lives if you give the 5 A’s, you will get them. Perhaps not from the source you wished, but you will get them. If you do get them from the source you wish, it is your responsibility to ask for them. If you don’t get them you then have to consider the relationship. Is it a relationship without the 5 A’s? I don’t think so.
Bright blessings ~ Richard

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Richard Cor de Lyon Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:44:54 +0100
Reply from UCreateUrReality /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3307235 Hi Jade and thanks. I basically did what you suggested above, but (and I didn’t expect this of myself) I got hurt when they didn’t show open love and acceptance, and I’m looking for reasons.. I feel very open and vulnerable right now and I’m not used to feeling that way. I would never blame them with their background and upbringing.. i guess Im just hurt and angry

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UCreateUrReality Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:31:53 +0100
Reply from Jade /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3307230 HI Ucreate….if you just told your parents this weekend, perhaps they just need to absorb what they didn’t expect. Have they been supportive of you in the past?

and As far as I am concerned, personal responsibility is what is conditionally wrong with society in general. Far too often we look to blame others with what we feel is wrong in our own lives. If we as a person or population do not like what is happening around us…we MUST speak up with intergrity and dignity. I recently told another poster, if you have a problem don’t treat it as a school yard fight. Present your fact based argument, support it with documentation, and argue with honor.

As for guilt, that goes against acceptance. Let’s say your parents don’t accept your lifestyle ever, should you hate/make them feel guilty for feeling that way? My answer, no, for then you compound the problem for not accepting their opinion. See the vicious cycle that presents itself. But let’s say, you tell them, I appreciate the fact that you don’t agree with my lifestyle, but understand that I choose my life paths and I accept your position on the matter. I hope someday, you will accept mine. Who holds the higher moral code? Who sets the example of acceptance?

Hope this helps…

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Jade Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:27:57 +0100
Reply from UCreateUrReality /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3307202 Rich, I love the post and I agree. Would like to ask you though, (in lieu of making my own help post for something I’m going through) a question.
If we don’t receive these 5 A’s, do we have a personal responsibility to not become a serial killer, or more likely not to give those 5 A’s to others, or does the responsibility rely on the parents or “the village,” who didn’t show that?

I came out to parents this past weekend, and lets just say it wasnt the best reaction. I would write a help post but I dont know what to write.. your post here brought up that question that has been going through my mind. …should there be guilt or responsibility towards the non-givers, or not?

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UCreateUrReality Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:07:54 +0100
Reply from Jade /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3307152 Rich, I love this post…it’s very true that the 5 A’s are so critical in showing someone that they are not just in your life….but IN your life.

Like most, I so often am rushing around trying to get things done and my daughter will try to tell me about her day. I finally told her that each night we will sit down after my little boy goes to bed and share stories about our day so we can give each other our undivided attention…it is one of the best parts of my day.

My reasons for divorce centered upon every one of those A’s - without them it is a feeling of not being good enough.

My friends laugh at me actually for I generally do not multitask when I talk to them. I will sit down, turn off the computer, turn off the tv, minimize distractions and just focus on them. I drop what I am doing to talk with them or tell them to call i.e. in 30 minutes. But at the same time, they KNOW I don’t answer the phone when I am on overdrive…ha ha.

For humor…The confusion comes in when I am IM’ing more than one person at a time…it can be a bit dangerous when you hit the send key and realize you sent the wrong message to the wrong receiptent…ah well, alter their universe for just a moment.

Rich, again another great post…hugs…and thanks for being you!

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Jade Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:19:32 +0100
Reply from AnnA ~ Lady Wolf /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3306922 wow, thanks for that little bit of adivce there Rich
food for thought indeed…
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AnnA ~ Lady Wolf Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:27:06 +0100
Reply from Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3306890 Oh… for me the attention thing REALLY kicks in with the kids.I mean just how important to me is a little 10 year old crush?! Well… after careful consideration I realize that it is HUGELY important to me!

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Richard Cor de Lyon Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:57:14 +0100
Reply from Richard Cor de Lyon /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3306884 thank you Brian… and the Joy of your lesson is; what you give you too shall receive!

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Richard Cor de Lyon Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:54:32 +0100
Reply from original AKS /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3306872 the one of the five “A”s i must talk about is..Attention.
Just tonite, i was talking to a wonderful new friend..sharing stories, getting to knw each other better..when i realized,as i skimmed this post, that not only was i reading this post, but i was also,..(gasp) in the chat room at help..

How can i really be listening to my friend, if i am not really listening…?

I closed the chat window, and made a point to ask her to repeat what she had just said..and then..I listened.

We can say we are paying attention, that sounds forced huh?

I am, from now on, going to remember to GIVE attention…as a gift from my heart..on my honor.

THANKS RICH..so glad you are still around

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original AKS Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:48:57 +0100
Reply from xbox /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3306822 I love you, Rich — and it almost appears as though you’re afraid to link to your own website, so here ya go: http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/hrp/I…

;D nmw

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xbox Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:15:36 +0100
Reply from happylaxman /post/118680-peace-out#reply-3306649 Love it! way to go richard!

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happylaxman Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:47:21 +0100
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