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af Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:42:33 +0100
Reply from ben_j_richard /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3741363 dear oh dear lol

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ben_j_richard Thu, 15 May 2008 19:40:10 +0100
Reply from Tictactomm /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3740666 [quote JesusMurphy]Okay, I don’t want to sound inappropriate, but I watched that lecture stoned and FREAKED.
IT WORKS! And that’s coming from a 16 year old whose scientific credientials consist of dissecting a cow eye in 6th grade and drawing little mustaches on all the sperms in her science textbook. So you know it must be right if I’m backing it up.[/quote]

Bong science!

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Tictactomm Thu, 15 May 2008 14:51:11 +0100
Reply from JesusMurphy /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3740127 Okay, I don’t want to sound inappropriate, but I watched that lecture stoned and FREAKED.
IT WORKS! And that’s coming from a 16 year old whose scientific credientials consist of dissecting a cow eye in 6th grade and drawing little mustaches on all the sperms in her science textbook. So you know it must be right if I’m backing it up.

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JesusMurphy Thu, 15 May 2008 09:46:48 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3723587 [quote betta][quote ☺]There are some things said that I approve of, and a lot of other stuff said that I think is unscientific BS. In the interest of diplomacy, for once I’m not going to say which is which.[/quote]

I know that I don’t have any knowledge of string theory and that my comments were purely unscientific. I hope one day I grasp string theory. I just haven’t really tried very hard yet to grasp it.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure he was talking about that which was discussed in the video, not your reply.

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The Astro-Man Sat, 10 May 2008 20:37:50 +0100
Reply from betta /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3723550 [quote ☺]There are some things said that I approve of, and a lot of other stuff said that I think is unscientific BS. In the interest of diplomacy, for once I’m not going to say which is which.[/quote]

I know that I don’t have any knowledge of string theory and that my comments were purely unscientific. I hope one day I grasp string theory. I just haven’t really tried very hard yet to grasp it.

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betta Sat, 10 May 2008 20:24:16 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3719714 Think of it. If these particle collision tests work the way we hope they do (’we’ being the collective devotees to superstring theory), then it would be the biggest leap in the realm of physics since Einstein’s theory or relativity. This is great stuff; I’m so excited to be living in this time of discovery!

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The Astro-Man Fri, 09 May 2008 16:33:35 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3719699 Here’s the latest:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/05/09/ph…

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The Astro-Man Fri, 09 May 2008 16:25:23 +0100
Reply from ben_j_richard /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3719363 I wishi had been keeping up with this post, but i havent had the time lately. String theory is a very interesting prospect, But Its not the only theory out there. There are infact a very more theroies of this kind and GUTs. Personally im a practical not theoretical physicist so Whilst i love the theories and thought experiments going on in string theory most of it is yet unprovable (and maybe never will be). I do find it very disconcerting though that we through so many people at this theory that allows for so much variation that most of the people that work on it have there own slightly different versions and none of it can be tied down. This is why i work on and very looking forward to the effort of the LHC. This will give us the ability to examine some of the precursary ideas that this theory is basesd on. The problem however with a theory this complex and has so many unknown variables Is that even if part of it are proved wrong and some of their assumptions that it is based on dont exist. There is enough wriggling room for theorists to reformulate it to get round any obsticle. This is why whilst i love the technical and predictions of the theory, as a scientist I find anything hard to belive with out proof…… and proof for this sort of thing is almost impossible.

By the way hasw anyone ever heard of heim theory lol, i always thought it would be really nice and eligant if it was found out to be true instead. In science is frequently the little guy that no one pay attention too that ends up being right lol. However very few people, (i think about 2 still living) actually understand it… It was wriiten by heim who did it all by him self in isolation, he was def and blind, he wrote it all in german and the theory has never been widly reveiwed mainly because harly anyone can understand it as its very complex and all in german.

OR tho recently a small group of people have decided to try and understand it. I like it when the little guy wins lol, I wouldnt be surprised if at some point he might be found to be a little understood genius.

lol sorry thats enought of the science history lesson lol. Back to string theory :P

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ben_j_richard Fri, 09 May 2008 11:40:42 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3719348 Yes, I too am curious as to understand what it is you disagree with.

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The Astro-Man Fri, 09 May 2008 11:20:51 +0100
Reply from Tictactomm /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3719246 [quote ☺]There are some things said that I approve of, and a lot of other stuff said that I think is unscientific BS. In the interest of diplomacy, for once I’m not going to say which is which.[/quote]

I admire your restraint ;). I doubt anyone would be offended if their speculations are dubbed “unscientific” brother. I give you free reign to respectfully voice your opinion!

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Tictactomm Fri, 09 May 2008 09:14:47 +0100
Reply from bark pench /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3718182 There are some things said that I approve of, and a lot of other stuff said that I think is unscientific BS. In the interest of diplomacy, for once I’m not going to say which is which.

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bark pench Fri, 09 May 2008 00:45:40 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3706913 Wait a minute. By influencing and interacting with these strings that exist in different dimensions, wouldn’t we presumably be ripping a hole into space? Our three dimensions would be ruptured.

I don’t know, just a random thought.

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The Astro-Man Mon, 05 May 2008 23:03:11 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3706781 I find the simplicity of it all to be the most interesting. The fact that there may be ‘miracle specks’ (as I like to call them) all around us that we could harness and manipulate to do as we please with them is not only an amazing concept, but also somewhat disturbing. I need to look into this more, mind you, but it would be wonderful to look in to.

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The Astro-Man Mon, 05 May 2008 22:37:32 +0100
Reply from Tictactomm /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3706651 And wow Akithma. I did some digging into monatomic gold and its fascinating. History, theology, science, the mystery of origin, it all crosses together when reading about it.

Interesting point though. After burning gold to that intensity for that length of time, where did it go? Both sides of the equation have to balance, so where is it? String theory might provide but one aspect of one answer to a multitude of questions. Fasincating.

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Tictactomm Mon, 05 May 2008 22:11:43 +0100
Reply from Tictactomm /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3706602 Thanks guys, and thanks for the wiki legwork Ireland. I really liked the lecture on ted.com (now a little dated as Richard noted) because of how provacatively simple the speaker laid it out.

Theoretical Physics and string theory in particular takes some serious leaps into the hyper-speculative, but that’s what is so fascinating about it. I honestly feel science is on the verge of a paradigm shift in terms of physical reality. I can’t wait to see how it unfolds.

Faith my fellow science geeks, faith (and yes, I’m aware of the irony of that statement).

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Tictactomm Mon, 05 May 2008 22:00:53 +0100
Reply from Ireland-1 /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3689300 String theory is a still developing mathematical approach to theoretical physics, whose original building blocks are one-dimensional extended objects called strings. Unlike the point particles in quantum field theories like the standard model of particle physics, strings interact in a way that is almost uniquely specified by mathematical self-consistency, forming an apparently valid quantum theory of gravity.

Since its birth as the dual resonance model which described the strongly interacting hadrons as strings, the term string theory has changed to include any of a group of related superstring theories and larger frameworks such as M-theory, which unite them. A shared property of all these theories is the holographic principle.

String theorists have not yet completely described these theories, nor have they determined if these theories relate to the physical universe or how.[1] The logical coherence of the approach, however, and the fact that string theory can include all older theories of physics, have led many physicists to believe that such a connection is possible. In particular, string theory is the first candidate theory of everything, a way to describe all the known natural forces (gravitational, electromagnetic, weak and strong) and matter (quarks and leptons) in a mathematically complete system. On the other hand, many detractors criticise string theory because it has not yet provided experimentally testable predictions.

Like any other quantum theory of gravity, it is widely believed that testing the theory experimentally would be prohibitively expensive, requiring heroic feats of engineering on a solar-system scale. Although string theory, like any other scientific theory, is falsifiable in principle, critics maintain that it is unfalsifiable for the foreseeable future, and so should not be called science.

Work on string theory is made interesting because of the mathematics involved, and because of the large number of forms that the theories can take. String theory strongly suggests that spacetime has eleven dimensions [2], not the usual three space and one time; but the theory can easily describe universes with four observable spacetime dimensions too.[3]

String theories include higher-dimensional objects than strings, called branes. These are black-holes charged with a differential form vector potential which has more than one index, a different type of electricity and magnetism where the fundamental objects are extended. By studying these p-branes and identifying them with D-branes, endpoints for strings, certain types of string theory are shown to be equivalent to certain types of more traditional gauge theory. Research on this equivalence has led to new insights on quantum chromodynamics, the fundamental theory of the strong nuclear force

The above information was for anyone who didn’t know what String Theory was, it can be readily read on Wikipedia at the following URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_t…

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Ireland-1 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:27:52 +0100
Reply from AKITHMA /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679927 food for your brain,give us this day our daily bread

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AKITHMA Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:19:21 +0100
Reply from AKITHMA /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679876 nu poets and roses are a sweet sort of smell refreshing the mind from that stale pungent hell
they boast all is done and nothings anew
then say they knew all but hardly knew truth
and would we progress or does evolution snare
trapped in the minds of the people who dare
not!
how can we become one of these gods
if nothing moves forth and all knowlegde is done
is it all they accept?
what made you cover their traces and steps
perhaps ye are scared of what man shall acheive
and leave you to rot in these dead forest trees
will you navigate the heavens address
or wander in circles thinking you know the rest

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AKITHMA Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:51:23 +0100
Reply from AKITHMA /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679842 anyway tictactomm i shall be in touch!

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AKITHMA Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:37:27 +0100
Reply from AKITHMA /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679840 i sayeth!i think you are the sarcasm ,astroboy didnt have a dad

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AKITHMA Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:36:25 +0100
Reply from Anonymous /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679838 I am an anonymous spirit, very interested in finding out what you believe you know.
So I shall subscribe to this post.
Please do proceed.

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Anonymous Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:35:46 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679833 Honestly, who says ‘layeth’ in everyday conversation? Just stop while you’re ahead.

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The Astro-Man Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:34:06 +0100
Reply from AKITHMA /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679831 not at all these are very real experiments with very real outcomes,do you know the story of the golden calf?

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AKITHMA Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:33:27 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679819 Yup, he’s being sarcastic.

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The Astro-Man Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:31:04 +0100
Reply from AKITHMA /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679816 however iam not at position to explain the whole details on help for there be a dark door which layeth at the end of this coriidor and it will take some understanding and gnosis to embrace the outcome beyond,however i shall find some source material in connection to dimensional pathways ,it may take some time tho,so be a little be patient, shout me if i forget,as iam quite busy of late

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AKITHMA Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:29:29 +0100
Reply from AKITHMA /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679804 it will certainly open your eyes when you begin to understand the total!that i can promise

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AKITHMA Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:21:29 +0100
Reply from AKITHMA /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679803 no i cant offer you one at present but i shall look into it for you tommorrow and send you some links,its been two years at least since i last looked into this ,there are quite deeper issues related to this alchemy science of old

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AKITHMA Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:19:29 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679782 [quote AKITHMA]have you looked into the latest experiments done with monotomic gold,philosophers stone, highward fire stone,white powder gold,i think you may find the results of interest,it has been termed exotic matter![/quote]

Do you have a source, or are you being sarcastic?

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The Astro-Man Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:07:11 +0100
Reply from AKITHMA /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679769 have you looked into the latest experiments done with monotomic gold,philosophers stone, highward fire stone,white powder gold,i think you may find the results of interest,it has been termed exotic matter!

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AKITHMA Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:02:55 +0100
Reply from seeuseeme /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3679163 All kinds of travel comes to my mind, we could be here one moment and next moment lo and behold I on, what Mars or an exa-solar planet, wow!

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seeuseeme Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:58:24 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3678308 Sorry. Not to spam the thread or anything, but I was just reminded of this quote by (the sadly late) Arthur C. Clarke:

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”

which of course applies to the ’supernatural.’ Once we make the possibilities of string theory a reality, we’ll soon be just as necromancers raising the dead, and distant travellers carrying enchanted maps. Already we have the ability to communicate to people across oceans with the touch of a button. We can get into our cars or airplanes or hop on a train or a bus to take us vast distances in mere hours. We’ve gone to the moon, of all places. With string theory, our possibilities are virtually limitless.

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The Astro-Man Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:49:56 +0100
Reply from Sans /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3678305 As some of you know, i am both a christian and somewhat enamored of kurzweil’s theory of an imminent technological singularity, two seemingly incongruous viewpoints. I have always intuitively believed that our perspective of space (spacetime) is only one of many, that our universe could be subatomic in someone else’s reality and vice versa. Now thanks to tictactotum and the astro-man, i’ll be spending non-money-earning time watching these lectures! Just for the record, fact not theory, string cheese isn’t cheese, and silly string isn’t string. Not in this dimension at least.

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Sans Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:48:41 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3678285 Also, thanks TTT for that link to the TED site on my post those many weeks ago. I’ve been watching some of the lectures and most of what everyone has to say is excellent. I’m very excited to watch this particular string theory lecture, as I haven’t watched it just yet.

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The Astro-Man Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:42:18 +0100
Reply from The Astro-Man /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3678276 I’ve been thinking about this ever since I heard about string theory a couple years ago. It makes sense that what we’ve been calling our ’souls’ all this time could actually be extremely tiny particles smaller than atoms and that these strings, when found together in one spot, could make up things like our ideas of ‘heaven,’ which further perpetuates the idea that heaven is different for each person depending on how they perceive it.

Also, as annlovestars mentioned, it could open up numerous possibilities for things we’ve never before thought possible, such as interstellar travel, or even teleportation. Maybe even time travel (though I personally believe that to be altogether impossible).

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The Astro-Man Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:39:25 +0100
Reply from Sans /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3678244 I assume that you’re referring to the theory that string cheese is not really cheese at all, but some kind of processed quasi-edible product of marketing?

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Sans Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:31:17 +0100
Reply from BrighterBlessing /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3677862 I do have one question - there was another post on supernatural things and I noticed the discussion went all over the place. It then occurred to me, “How do we define Supernatural”???

I don’t know if that is mentioned in the lecture since I can’t listen to it right now but would be intereted in hearing your thoughts on it! Does it mean anything unexplained? Spirits? Hauntings? Psychic ability? I didn’t ask on the other post though it occurred to me I should have so I will ask it here. It is good to know we are all talking about the same thing! have a nice evening!

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BrighterBlessing Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:20:40 +0100
Reply from BrighterBlessing /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3677850 My speakers are unplugged from my last computer repair and I can’t get behind the desk to plug it back in so I will try to find a PC to listen to the lecture when I can. I don’t know much about string theory but I do know a lot about the supernatural. It’s always been part of who I am. I know there are multiple planes of existence and that we are more than the physical body. I will try to find a place to listen to this and let you know if I have anything to add. I guess my initial thought is many people need to explain life and experience in scientific terms and measurable things (as a society many people have faith which is interesting because it is something that can’t be seen or measured yet have trouble understanding or accepting people like me who are different. I have always seen spirit and energy; had visions; have worked as a psychic and medium and healer. I have figured out what I believe and am open to hearing opinions like this and believe we all are entitled to decide what we can believe (without criticism). I’ll be interested in listening to this, thanks for the invite!

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BrighterBlessing Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:17:01 +0100
Reply from betta /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3677841 While most supernatural phenomenon can be attributed to overactive imaginations or things explainable within currently accepted science, maybe in some cases where people are clairvoyant/psychic for real, or demonic/ghostly/angelic encounters occur, maybe those could be attributed to inter-dimensional travelers. Maybe Doctor Who will one day be science fact.

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betta Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:13:48 +0100
Reply from Richard Cor de Lyon /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3677052 Pretty cool. I noticed it was filmed in 2005, I wonder what some more current results of that sort of testing might have revealed. On an esoteric level of course, this sort of thing has long been taught, with Quantum Physics catching up to that in only the last couple of decades or so.

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Richard Cor de Lyon Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:02:45 +0100
Reply from ben_j_richard /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3677051 Its an interesting idea……. Generally most “supernatural” things have no basis in science. But However there might be some effects of energy gravity or temperal fluctuations on the small scale.

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ben_j_richard Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:02:28 +0100
Reply from Ireland-1 /post/155323-could-string-theory-validate-many-t#reply-3676991 now that is an amazing thought

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Ireland-1 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:47:34 +0100
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