[Help] im done, i cant handle this anymore all im doing is hurting people... Updates to this post /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:35:28 +0100 Reply from jjaj /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3734587 Dude. Go ahead. Kill yourself. Let me see how stupid you are. You’re an idiot! Do it! No one on here cares about someone who will not take their advice. What are you, our kid? We don’t know you and we won’t miss you you. What difference would it make if you died? Our worlds wouldn’t change, but you will be another dead dog. The sun will rise and set, and we’ll still have fun. So yes, Kill yourself! Stupid idiot like you don’t want to take our advice on here. It’s for your own ******* good!

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jjaj Tue, 13 May 2008 22:45:57 +0100
Reply from Nutmeg /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3732629 Are you ok? Please, let us know how you’re doing.

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Nutmeg Tue, 13 May 2008 06:31:11 +0100
Reply from candidro /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719230 i allways hurt people too so i know what ur going threw but u have much more to live for like seeing ur first child born like getting married and everything i know u want to see ur child grow up so dont do it

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candidro Fri, 09 May 2008 08:54:38 +0100
Reply from Nutmeg /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719217 Thank you hoss, for saying what I wanted to say but much much better :). Chris, you can get through tonight… you just have to make yourself want to. I have to go too…. but I’ll be thinking about you, and willing you to stay strong.
Good luck

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Nutmeg Fri, 09 May 2008 08:31:23 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719214 just to make sure. it’s i> small>(email removed) /small> /i>

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 08:30:02 +0100
Reply from hosseinshahrokn /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719213 There is a saying: “Life never burdens us with more than we can carry…”

Chrisncai, all the best and most moving stories have begun from where you are standing right now. Make it through the night for me, Nutmeg, katwi and enigma’s sake. Tomorrow is a new day. You don’t know what’s going to happen. I’m so sorry to hear about your folks. I hate to believe that you’re caught in the middle of parents argues… I can’t imagine how hard that has been on you.

Your folks love you deep down even if they are under too much pressure to show you that. Think about the warmest memories with them. A breakfast, or when they tucked you in for sleep, or bought you something you wanted even though you knew that they weren’t doing very well financially. That feeling of them hasn’t changed a bit. They still love you equally as much.

What if… What if four weeks from now, all this is settled and you are back with her and she’s understood what you meant and everything in your relationship with her and more importantly with your relationship with yourself gets better than you’ve imagined it.

You won’t know until four weeks from now, why cut every line of possible joy that can come into your life.

chrisncai, you have too much going on for you to do something stupid, you know that too.

“bbut i neeed someoone i can always have contact and see whenn i need d it.” - That’s sounds like a very good definition of the one who created you.

But again, there are 8 billion people on this planet, 1,006,644 of which live in your city, there are many in your vicinity who will be there for you. Just open your eyes dude. Come my friend, you are smarter than this. We’ve all been there, so that’s why we are so eager to get you out.

You are a survivor Chris. Growing up in such an environment might have been extremely tough, but be sure that you are that much tougher than your peers. I think you will notice that there will be plenty of people in your life that will take shelter under your wings just because of the hardships you’ve endured and the deep insight insight on life they’ve given you. So you might be reaching out tonight, but people like me and others in your vicinity will be reaching out to you. Just bite the bullet, do something outrageous that makes you not think about it for a while (preferably not drugs). Once you’ve endured it, you’ll be stronger and most likely happier than ever.

Man I’ve got to get back to my paper, but if you want to talk about this, e-mail me your telephone number and I’ll gladly give you a call (I’m 25 and live in California).

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hosseinshahrokn Fri, 09 May 2008 08:29:11 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719211 chrisncai, i have to go now. but you have my email. anytime you need someone to talk to, please don’t hesitate to make contact. take care, okay?

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 08:28:51 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719207 if worse comes to worse, just wake up your neighbors and explain to them the situation.

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 08:22:43 +0100
Reply from Nutmeg /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719205 Are you still there?

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Nutmeg Fri, 09 May 2008 08:20:56 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719200 there’s no way in? no one inside the house? do you have a phone? is there an operating business or government institution nearby??

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 08:15:19 +0100
Reply from Nutmeg /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719197 K, well if you’re that cold, then you probably should find a way of at least going inside a barn or something. Or go to a friend’s house?
Everyone ends relationships at some point in their life. Just because one of them ended doesn’t mean you’ll never find another. Be glad you’ve had the chance to have someone to hug :).
Why are you so sure that you’ve lost this person?

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Nutmeg Fri, 09 May 2008 08:12:23 +0100
Reply from chrisncai /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719196 i live in saskatchewan, and i dont wantt to goo in rigght now. i do butt i dont have my keyyy

and i alredy had someonee icould hug. so whatss to say i wont ruin thatt too

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chrisncai Fri, 09 May 2008 08:10:22 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719191 as Gandhi said: “be the change you want to see”

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 08:08:33 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719188 and give THEM a hug!

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 08:06:57 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719184 ooh…and if you’re going to kill yourself…you might as well go give all you’ve got the people you care and tell them you love them

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 08:05:15 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719182 yea, if you’re going to kill yourself, you might as well tell us where you live.
if we’re close by, perhaps we could provide you a place to stay for the night :)

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 08:01:36 +0100
Reply from katwi /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719181 *hugs chrisncai* Do you have a place where you can go inside for a bit, chrisncai?

BTW, there are going to be people in your life to hug you in the future. And you will be that person that hugs them back when they need it.

Stay strong, my friend. Don’t give up tonight.

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katwi Fri, 09 May 2008 08:01:27 +0100
Reply from Nutmeg /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719178 Ok, well, question as to where you live if you feel like telling us…
but also… are you SURE that person isn’t still there for you?
Please, don’t do anything yet. If you die tonight, you won’t have a chance to get back with your special person. You’ll never get to make new connections.

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Nutmeg Fri, 09 May 2008 08:00:29 +0100
Reply from chrisncai /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719176 thank you guys,

but i need people here now, people that can just give me a hug, and i only hhad one of those people…

you are all nice people, and i thank you all…

bbut i neeed someoone i can always have contact and see whenn i need d it.

sorry for the shakey hands, im frozen im outside and its - weather. so my fingers are frozen.

but thank you.

but its not going to help me now.

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chrisncai Fri, 09 May 2008 07:58:45 +0100
Reply from katwi /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719172 Oh, Chrisncai. I’m so sorry. People are tough, aren’t they?

But you can’t change them. And you can’t take responsibility for them. And just because they are messing up doesn’t mean they don’t love you. They are just too caught up in their own pain to take care of you and show you the love you deserve.

But it is NOT GOING TO ALWAYS BE LIKE THIS!!!

I promise you that. Do you see the many people who care about you here? Well, that’s only a small percentage of the many, many people you are going to meet in real life.

You are going to have a life of friendships with healthy individuals. You are going to meet many people who care about you. And you’ll make a difference in their lives as well - a positive one.

Start getting yourself healthy now. Talk to someone in real life who can help you. Is there one person older than you who may listen? Who may help you find some guidance as you take your first steps towards the great life you deserve?

Take the first step today and just make it until tomorrow. Take another step tomorrow and call someone for help. If that person can’t help you, make a second call. Maybe it’ll take three calls! Your life is worth a few phone calls.

Get ready now, because you are going to have the better life you deserve. Be strong and start getting ready for it.

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katwi Fri, 09 May 2008 07:52:55 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719168 for the best answer, or explanation atheists have come up for morality is that morality is only a herd instinct–something evolution instilled in us to promote the survival of the species (if you have a better explanation, i would love to hear it). ironically, the action that you’re considering–namely, death for a good cause–is one that topples that hypothesis down. for death (as far as atheists know) cuts off every possible satisfaction: and if we have an instinctive desire for the good of posterity then this desire, by the very nature of the case, can never be satisfied, since its aim is achieved, if at all, when you are dead.

reason is all i could give. if you will not listen to rationality, then perhaps you would be doing the gene pool a favor via suicide.

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 07:48:09 +0100
Reply from Nutmeg /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719166 Maybe she’s just still mad at you… some girls take a long time to calm down after a fight. Just because she hasn’t forgiven you yet (or even heard your side of the story) doesn’t mean that she won’t.
Good for you as far as moving to your dad’s… it’s a horrible situation, and it ISN’T your fault. Your parents (or dad and stepmom, or whoever) are not fighting because of you. Maybe they’re using you as an excuse, but you are not the problem. More likely, they’re making you the scapegoat because they don’t want to face real issues.
I don’t get why you’re saying you’re such a bad person, hon. You haven’t done anything… or maybe you’ve said a couple of the wrong things, made a couple of small mistakes… but everyone does.

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Nutmeg Fri, 09 May 2008 07:45:20 +0100
Reply from hosseinshahrokn /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719163 Dude… Don’t.

Minutes haven’t passed and you already have a community that truly are telling you that they are caring… These are your peers, these have had their own hardships and might even been on the verge put have been courageous enough to find hope in tomorrow and pulled themselves through the worst of situations.

You have a greater possibility than ever to take this extremely negative feeling, turn it around and use it to overcome this and go way beyond. To a point were you will remember this day with gratitude. The truth is that we need these hardships, as terrible as they might be, to become something greater than we thought we could be. Rest assured that there are greater forces in play (let’s not call it God, let’s call it whatever intelligence and nature that created you).

Chrisncai, we all can remember incidents where we felt hope was gone, where we didn’t want to live on… But today, looking back, wow, how fortunate we were that they didn’t turn out to our liking… Think carefully.

From a completely pragmatic point of view:
You kill yourself today… Some get upset, some get chocked, some get angry, some feel guilt (yeay!), some (as you mention) don’t give a… Years pass, and whatever terrible thing you’ve done is forgotten. Peoples life goes on, people are out enjoying themselves, and your gone… Your memory fades except for your truly loved ones… But they have agreed to the fact that you’ve died and live on with their lives… What the hell did you just achieve dude??

Flip it around. Let’s say you changed you city and cut ties with these people that you supposedly have hurt or vice versa. What do you want to do in this world that is not related to this problem? Make use of yourself and create a life full of joy and ecstasy. How? If you’re into helping others, go into a help organization and start saving other peoples lives, if you’re into sustainability, go help us save the environment, if you’re just into having fun, move to somewhere fun (Tokyo, Hawaii, Jamaica, or somewhere domestic) and just have fun.

ANY of those options beats being a pale photograph which colors faded away ten years ago and a tombstone which isn’t well-managed. And in case you have a heart (which I’m absolutely sure you do my friend), your parents (and potential siblings faces of expression when they hear the news)… … … For you it is a moment (if you don’t believe in the soul). For them it is a lifetime. Did they really deserve that? How would you feel if “The only beautiful part of it” go hit by a truck today and died or worse, put a bullet to her head… Not a good example but rest assured that you are somebodies “Only beautiful part of the world”.

And hear it from me, as your peer/brother, I care for you. If possible, I’d nothing rather than go out for some drinks and just talk about this kind of stuff. And I’m not alone, we all care for you…

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hosseinshahrokn Fri, 09 May 2008 07:43:59 +0100
Reply from chrisncai /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719158 because of something i said at a wrong time, it was misunderstood and i tried to explaine it but she doesent want tolisten.

ive tried, my mom was an alcoholic and a drug dealer, i had to deal with that my whole life then i managed to tell someone and get moved into my dads, but i just made them fight, and made the girl i love sad…

so im a horrible person who just shouldent be here anymore, and as soon as everyones gone, and there is nobody to help me later. im done.

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chrisncai Fri, 09 May 2008 07:40:56 +0100
2 users were invited to read this post by Nutmeg /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-5296351 Nutmeg Fri, 09 May 2008 07:37:27 +0100 Reply from Nutmeg /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719155 Why does this person hate you now?

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Nutmeg Fri, 09 May 2008 07:36:49 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719154 as long as you know you’re committing an irrational plan, then go ahead.

and, by gosh, you don’t believe in god? you don’t believe in a moral law giver? then why are you so fixed and stubborn in wanting to mitigate other people’s pain? there’s no such a thing as a universal oughtness is an atheistic worldview. and if mitigating another’s suffering is your own, created subjective morality…well, 1) for what reasons are you pursuing it? and 2) why not consider changing it?

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 07:36:37 +0100
Reply from Nutmeg /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719153 Right, so you don’t want to place pain on other people… and killing yourself isn’t going to pain your family?
YOu know… if you can hurt someone by saying something, then obviously THEY care what you say, because they care about you and about your opinion. Why do you think this person that you care about is lost to you?

But then, you said you don’t want to hear about “But people are going to miss you”. Ok then, what about this: You have a chance to do WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT right now. You don’t want to live? Fine, then you don’t care if you die. All fear is gone. There is nothing to be afraid of anymore. Go out, skydive. Climb Mount Everest. Talk in public. I’m sure there are THOUSANDS of things that you’ve never tried and always wanted to do. Well, if you don’t want to live anymore, then go do them!

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Nutmeg Fri, 09 May 2008 07:36:28 +0100
Reply from chrisncai /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719152 the only beautiful part… hates me now…

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chrisncai Fri, 09 May 2008 07:36:20 +0100
Reply from katwi /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719151 I can’t stop you or force you to hear me - I wish I could! But it’s going to be your choice in the end whether to quit tonight or to keep trying. You think you know what lies beyond both choices. You think if you continue to live, it’s a future of pain and struggle and causing others pain. You think if you choose to die, that will end.

You don’t know either.

“Where there’s life, there’s hope” is cliche, but it’s also true. Life changes day to day; death doesn’t. Whatever is on the other side, that’s permanent. That’s forever.

Don’t do it tonight. Write yourself a note of something you want to accomplish tomorrow - something that’s in your control (ie you may not be able to make amends with someone in a single day, since they also have some say in that; they must agree to it). What could you do tomorrow that just MIGHT make a difference? Even if you think it won’t, there’s still a chance.

Is there someone you could talk to? A hotline you could call? ie The National Suicide Helpline at this link: http://suicidehotlines.com/national.html

There isn’t any need to make a permanent decision, one you cannot EVER reverse, tonight.

And notice that several people here truly care that you are hurting. We’ve experienced pain as well. We don’t want you to go through this. But you are strong enough to make it through another day, and you’ll have our support.

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katwi Fri, 09 May 2008 07:36:17 +0100
Reply from chinlo77 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719145 This is ridiculous! You think your hurting people now wait till they find out some they loved regardless of what you might think has taken their own life. Suicide is the most selfish act on earth! Grow up get a new job make some new friends, I think that you will be very suprised at how beautiful this world really is. Good luck in life I know you won’t need it though. Your friend Christian

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chinlo77 Fri, 09 May 2008 07:30:47 +0100
Reply from chrisncai /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719144 well

im sorry but im not convinced, i would rather be gone and not place pain on other people, then to stay around and do that.

and just for the record, i dont believe in god, thank you for trying to helpme, i appreciate it, but that wont work

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chrisncai Fri, 09 May 2008 07:27:14 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719140 but to conclude: there is no point in committing suicide–both on philosophical and practical grounds.

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 07:23:40 +0100
Reply from enigma_2003200 /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719139 are you serious? there’s nothing more in this life that you want to experience or pursue? do you find no more dreams, curiosities, or desires within you? i mean, if you want to kill yourself, it’s your choice to make. but don’t be fooled into thinking that things will be better, even for yourself. for decisions are made by using past experiences and data to predict the future (a person decides to eat the cake, not the poison, because he has learned that the poison will hurt him). however, when facing death, you have no such experience or data. nobody has ever risen back from death to tell the world what it was like to be dead. it is intrinsically impossible for you to even conceive what it’s like to be dead.
dude…just go talk to the people you think you’ve disappointed: your dad, family, teacher, or lover. get things out in the open and see what they have to say. things usually aren’t as bad as they seem.

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enigma_2003200 Fri, 09 May 2008 07:20:43 +0100
Reply from one.2wi /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719138 I was looking for the words to say but Katwi said them all .. thank you for that awesome post ..

know there are people here .. feeling the same way as you .. and we are all going through this together.

Don’t give up .. we all need you.

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one.2wi Fri, 09 May 2008 07:20:32 +0100
Reply from katwi /post/159118-im-done-i-cant-handle-this-anymore#reply-3719136 Don’t do it. I care about you. I’m sorry you are hurting. And maybe you have hurt other people; I have also. There is no one in the world who hasn’t hurt someone else that they love. We aren’t perfect, you know. But there’s so much good you can do in the world still. And you CAN do it. I know it doesn’t seem like it right now. But even when you don’t FEEL hope, it’s there. Your emotions change; hope remains. You can’t truly prove it’s gone. You can’t say there’s no hope. You don’t know what tomorrow will bring. And every day is a chance for you to change your path, a chance for something new to happen, a chance to live a life not for yourself, but to help others. And that makes a big difference! You are the only person who has lived your life - the pain, disappointment, but also times of growth and joy. And therefore you may be the only person who has the experience to help someone else. Stay with us. Start over tomorrow. Start to get the help you need. Reach out — a pastor, a counselor (sliding scales are available, I believe, if money is an issue). Talk to someone who can tell you how to start again. But no matter what you decide, know that someone right now does care about you and is thinking of you and praying for you. And know that God truly loves and accepts you, just as you are — but loves you too much to leave you that way. He’s so much stronger than you, and he can strengthen you when you can’t go on by yourself. Reach out. God will be there, and he doesn’t refuse a cry for help. Someone will listen.

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katwi Fri, 09 May 2008 07:17:54 +0100
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