I guess, I’ll go back in and try not to loose.

I hoped life was more than winners and loosers, but living in the grey…inbetween where I am now is hell.

I self destructed, but i’m young, and i can’t live a live in repent any longer.

I’m too extreme, but i think that’s the point.[/quote]

“Get busy living, or get busy dying.” - Stephen King

The point is not to win or lose. The point is to live. In the end… the true end, when the world closes around us in a final, dark farewell… it is those who lived who “win.”

I guess, I’ll go back in and try not to loose.

I hoped life was more than winners and loosers, but living in the grey…inbetween where I am now is hell.

I self destructed, but i’m young, and i can’t live a live in repent any longer.

I’m too extreme, but i think that’s the point.

But i just don’t want to be meaninglessly tring…hence depression.[/quote]

“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”

-Theodore Roosevelt
“Citizenship in a Republic,”
Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910

But i just don’t want to be meaninglessly tring…hence depression.

Not yet, though I’ve been meaning to.

And I believe that true happiness is effortless in motion… the effort is in learning how. Some of the world’s greatest innovators literally come up with new ideas IN THEIR SLEEP. Their LIVES simply manifest brilliance without effort… but every single one of them went to school and studied hard. No one is born into innovation, living, happiness, or love. You either work for it, or think you have it without ever really knowing it.

Someday your enlightenment will come full circle… and you’ll know it for sure.

Also, I don’t think I have what I need, that may be why i find having what i want impossible.

Anytime.

I’ve found this emensly helpfull. Thanks or your intersting views

It is perhaps in finding that you have not what you want that you will find what you need. Once you have what you need, what you want is easy.

Love and happiness without effort are meaningless.

I think what was foolish of though in the past was to premept situations before they happend, write it off as if i know what it’s about. I think that not giving love a chance again for a long time made me vvdepressed.

The struggle now, is not only to find enlightenment, but also love.

I fear, i will never find either again, and live on in introlable misery.

Lovely….sure you wanted to hear all that..(soz)

No you’re not, you just perceive yourself to be so in this one moment. You’re eons ahead of others, if for no other reason than you’ve touched enlightenment and can claim it exists.

There are those who move to the easy road from he hard one for lack of motivation. That is… unfortunate.

I swear I found personal enlightenment.

But now, I’m back at square one.

And what IS enlightenment? I’ve only bits and pieces of that answer right now. Not even enough to put into words… actually, I believe I know enough to know that it cannot be put into words.

But if you seek it… really, truly seek it… you’ll find it. You have to.

Sorry if i’m deviating from post btw

Not yet. I am merely another person on that road.

Perhaps, but perhaps you merely outgrew a more immature love. What if you were to find someone whom you could truly love LIVING with, not just merely loving?

What happens when two enlightened people find and love each other? It’s better, stronger, and more powerful than the sorry, mundane love the vast majority of people share.

You’ve not chosen the wrong path, simply the harder one.

Perhaps it is the most easy. Perhaps love, or want of it is so very basic to us, that it is the simplest way through which one can attempt to give life meaning.

Enlightenment, for example, takes years or even decades of determination and perseverance to attain. Love, you can just kind of fall into.

Manbe so many people live to love because love is… effortless?[/quote]

Yes I hear what your saying. (Added info…you prob don’t want to know).

I was in a relationship and love and relationships seemed to be the centre of many peoples lives, as it was mine. Then I thoought, it all seemed too simple, easy as you will. And figured true enlightenment, self sufficiency, undersranding one’s self or indeed other’s the world and other things, other than (alot of other’s) love were good thing to concentrate on.
But, I look back now, and see that i was actually alot happier whenever i was in love.
So for all my intelectual indevour, i felt more stupid than bere, because i needn’t have tried to discover all those things without love. I was callus to dismiss love so easliy.

Life is about living, not about loving. Loving makes living better, but living simply to love is leaving a lot of stuff out.

I don’t know if I believe that, though to listen to others, one would certainly suspect that to be true.

Perhaps it is the most easy. Perhaps love, or want of it is so very basic to us, that it is the simplest way through which one can attempt to give life meaning.

Enlightenment, for example, takes years or even decades of determination and perseverance to attain. Love, you can just kind of fall into.

Manbe so many people live to love because love is… effortless?

Congratulations ^.^[/quote]
Thankyou

Yes ofcoarse, life goes on without love. I was thinking idealistically, in terms of love amking life livable.

Unless you’ve yet to exist, or have already passed on. Being here, alive and awake, is only one tiny step in existing.

Congratulations ^.^

I think of it as one of many ways to do so.

agreed. But also love makes life livable….i think