[Help] Anyone ready to have there minds blown away by this crazy wikipedia page? Updates to this post /post/216972-anyone-ready-to-have-there-minds-bl Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:10:02 +0100 Reply from wallarookille /post/216972-anyone-ready-to-have-there-minds-bl#reply-4499490 Cool

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wallarookille Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:21:54 +0100
Reply from prisca_sapientia /post/216972-anyone-ready-to-have-there-minds-bl#reply-4485066 Don’t see where Fermi’s paradox is all that “mindblowing” to anyone with much exposure to astronomy and history, but it’s always amusing to see a religionist touting an archaic tome as somehow containing “proofs” that make more sense.

Currently, we can only extrapolate based on our own species’ evolution and that is usually viewed as a flawed method - a tiny window of time since we’ve achieved technologies that barely begin to permit our being noticed by other (more) advanced species.

Factoid - our species only began producing radio waves strong enough to reach out any distance from our solar system approx 50 years ago. That means our presence is only potentially known to a small fraction of our galaxy and only an infinitessimal fraction of the universe.

Factoid - our species has only been engaged in any concerted effort to scan the universe for inbound signals for a few decades, and we lack the ability to continuously monitor the entire universe on all frequencies.

Factoid - our species is only now close to identifying potential earths elsewhere in the universe. It may be hundreds of years before we can do much more than make educated guesses about what exists on them. Humans may be killed off or at least knocked back to the stone age before then, from nuclear war, global warming or a pandemic. Interesting read - http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy…

The probability of catastrophies befalling any species before they achiece a level of technology equal to our transmitting of radio waves (much less receive and decipher OURS) is likely very high.

The probability of a species evolving beyond that primitive level and achieving space travel/migration capabilities that might ensure its survival for eons is likely extremely low.

The scale of the universe is almost impossible for most people to grasp even now, much less back when Fermi speculated in 1950. To me, the assumptions made by Fermi weaken his premise, and in no way “prove” that humans are unique or that other intelligent species haven’t evolved or don’t exist now, nor whether they might have passed through this quadrant of the universe and perhaps even probed nearby star systems or tagged this system for future study (maybe by placing a monolith/beacon on an outlying planetoid that only transmits once every 1000 solar years) or even seeded this little planet with primitive organisms a billion years ago just for laughs.

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prisca_sapientia Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:17:25 +0100
Reply from Eve9 /post/216972-anyone-ready-to-have-there-minds-bl#reply-4483700 I think this kind of problem exists only for those who think we are here by chance. Once someone accepts the idea of God, everything else fits in. If you believe one huge (and wonderful) miracle, that is, that God really exists, everything else starts to make sense somehow. I don’t suggest that it is easy, you have to work on it, searching for and finding proofs for yourself in the Bible and in nature, but it is the only way to remain sane and have some hope in this world.

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Eve9 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:41:11 +0100
Reply from The beat goes on /post/216972-anyone-ready-to-have-there-minds-bl#reply-4480966 omg, thank you. I loved this.

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The beat goes on Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:35:04 +0100
Reply from Vilén /post/216972-anyone-ready-to-have-there-minds-bl#reply-4480948 Pretty funteresting.

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Vilén Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:27:30 +0100
Reply from InsertFishHere /post/216972-anyone-ready-to-have-there-minds-bl#reply-4480884 and its not that crazy just in case your expecting somthing wacko, its just that its hard to comprehend certain things…

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InsertFishHere Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:13:42 +0100
Reply from TutSiPop /post/216972-anyone-ready-to-have-there-minds-bl#reply-4480865 I’ll check it too

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TutSiPop Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:09:29 +0100
Reply from InsertFishHere /post/216972-anyone-ready-to-have-there-minds-bl#reply-4480851 yea, i dont have any adverts now, i did when i first signed on but now theres nothing…

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InsertFishHere Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:05:56 +0100
Reply from Anubis /post/216972-anyone-ready-to-have-there-minds-bl#reply-4480845 Sorry, it took me ages to find this post, it is hidden under the adverts! :( I’ll look at your link now.

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Anubis Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:04:07 +0100