[Help] What are 3 things that keep us from unity? Updates to this post /post/221073-what-are-3-things-that-keep-us-from Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:15:09 +0100 Reply from centerstadiu /post/221073-what-are-3-things-that-keep-us-from#reply-4529285 [quote mrzigg]I actually don’t find what I said depressing. It helps me to see a reason for what people do sometimes. It might be a slightly cold way of looking at things but I think I’d prefer that over being affected by every little thing that people do.

I understand your first two points but I don’t think I understand your third point. If you mean religion then I agree. Religion has been the cause of untold death and destruction. It has ruined lives and destroyed families.
Does the good done by religion outway this cost? Who can say?

I think that any religion that wants you to blindly believe something just because your ancestors believed it is preaching pure and utter ignorance. People have to find their own path and their own understanding for the world we live in. The world changes.
People may need guidance now and then but that should be in the form of informed debate not preaching something as the “absolute truth”.
This accusation I direct at all far-right religions (including far-right christians). Those who tell you that you are ‘evil’ if you’re not with them. Those that say theirs is the only path. By saying these things they are showing they are further from the path than any of us.[/quote]

I so don’t find anything you said depressing honesty is suppose to hurt. yes my third point is that we all don’t have the same believe thank you

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centerstadiu Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:00:58 +0100
Reply from mrzigg /post/221073-what-are-3-things-that-keep-us-from#reply-4529187 I actually don’t find what I said depressing. It helps me to see a reason for what people do sometimes. It might be a slightly cold way of looking at things but I think I’d prefer that over being affected by every little thing that people do.

I understand your first two points but I don’t think I understand your third point. If you mean religion then I agree. Religion has been the cause of untold death and destruction. It has ruined lives and destroyed families.
Does the good done by religion outway this cost? Who can say?

I think that any religion that wants you to blindly believe something just because your ancestors believed it is preaching pure and utter ignorance. People have to find their own path and their own understanding for the world we live in. The world changes.
People may need guidance now and then but that should be in the form of informed debate not preaching something as the “absolute truth”.
This accusation I direct at all far-right religions (including far-right christians). Those who tell you that you are ‘evil’ if you’re not with them. Those that say theirs is the only path. By saying these things they are showing they are further from the path than any of us.

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mrzigg Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:18:24 +0100
Reply from centerstadiu /post/221073-what-are-3-things-that-keep-us-from#reply-4529057 [quote mrzigg]What do you mean by unity? If you mean unity of the human race then I guess I’ll try to guess a few reasons:
1) Greed
2) Prejudice
3) Hate

Greed is a part of all human beings. It’s a survival trait that helps us look out for ourselves but in this society it also means that we sometimes neglect others. In an enlightened society where no one need want for anything and there is perfect fairness greed would not be needed. We don’t live in such a world.

Prejudice is an engrained part of the human psyche to allow a person to simplify the world and to put people into groups (i.e. good,bad,selfish,stupid,etc.). Again, this has helped humanity in our evolution by allowing us to see patterns and to predict what someone will be like. But, once again, in our society this can be a negative trait as it can prevent us from treating people fairly. This often leads to my third point.

Hate is one of the most powerful emotions. It can prevent us from seeing reason and make us do things we wouldn’t normally do (and sometimes regret afterwards). However it also serves a purpose. It is a powerful force for someone to change something which they see as being unjust. Hate can make you stand up for what you believe in and take action. As with all things it has positive and negative aspects.

I don’t put my ideas forward as the absolute truth and if you see things differently I respect that.[/quote]
Yes I will so agree with you thanks its sad isn’t it as I was doing some deep thinking in trying to putt my life centered in not keeping myself from unity with where I am the 3 I came up with myself 1. race 2.greed, 3.God Thank you so much for your input

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centerstadiu Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:44:15 +0100
Reply from mrzigg /post/221073-what-are-3-things-that-keep-us-from#reply-4528981 What do you mean by unity? If you mean unity of the human race then I guess I’ll try to guess a few reasons:
1) Greed
2) Prejudice
3) Hate

Greed is a part of all human beings. It’s a survival trait that helps us look out for ourselves but in this society it also means that we sometimes neglect others. In an enlightened society where no one need want for anything and there is perfect fairness greed would not be needed. We don’t live in such a world.

Prejudice is an engrained part of the human psyche to allow a person to simplify the world and to put people into groups (i.e. good,bad,selfish,stupid,etc.). Again, this has helped humanity in our evolution by allowing us to see patterns and to predict what someone will be like. But, once again, in our society this can be a negative trait as it can prevent us from treating people fairly. This often leads to my third point.

Hate is one of the most powerful emotions. It can prevent us from seeing reason and make us do things we wouldn’t normally do (and sometimes regret afterwards). However it also serves a purpose. It is a powerful force for someone to change something which they see as being unjust. Hate can make you stand up for what you believe in and take action. As with all things it has positive and negative aspects.

I don’t put my ideas forward as the absolute truth and if you see things differently I respect that.

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mrzigg Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:27:54 +0100
The post was edited by centerstadiu /post/221073-what-are-3-things-that-keep-us-from#reply-7366160 centerstadiu Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:59:35 +0100