[Help] World Coming To An End? Updates to this post /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:29:13 +0100 The post was closed by brucebrick /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-7552353 brucebrick Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:37:07 +0100 Reply from *Dougie* /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4593559 Very interesting :)

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*Dougie* Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:30:29 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4590395 okay,
read the following articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler%…
http://nonlocal.com/hbar/bell.html
http://www.phys.uu.nl/~wwwgrnsl/jos/f…

Do note, that you shouldn’t approach it too metaphysically, there are still rules bound to it. But still, it is true…

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lucif Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:29:14 +0100
Reply from *Dougie* /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4590181 Metaphysical experiments????
Pray elaborate! ;)

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*Dougie* Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:37:36 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4589987 [quote Dougie the Pisces]I don’t know! hehehe
I’ve never subscribed to the big bang theory myself…

But I’m not sure if a physicist wants to get into a debate with a philospher lol[/quote]

Hey, I do fundementals of quantum physics, I do metaphysical experiments. I get right up to the notch of philosophy.

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lucif Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:46:13 +0100
Reply from *Dougie* /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4585458 I don’t know! hehehe
I’ve never subscribed to the big bang theory myself…

But I’m not sure if a physicist wants to get into a debate with a philospher lol

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*Dougie* Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:09:23 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4585447 [quote Dougie the Pisces]I find that quite funny….
Because every few years when technology allows us to see deeper into space, the Big Bang theorists quickly revise their estimates!

I wish they would just give it away.

The primordeal atom (that’s what they call the infinitely stable mass that existed before the big bang) would have need some reason to become unstable….
An outside influence if my understanding of physics is correct.

So far, aside from the possible influence from another universe, or God, there haven’t been really any ideas as to why this may be!

if its from another universe, then clearly, our universe is in fact not a universe, because it is not all that exists…

If its God, then that’s a bit silly, because science is generally atheistic in nature![/quote]

I don’t think it is quite a sound theory mind you, and I am a physicist…
I don’t think it was an atomb or anything of the alike. Something was present, which all of the sudden had need to be observable, that is all I can think of. Why else would you need nature? That is what happened at the big bang. Everything got created…

what is to be then?

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lucif Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:07:39 +0100
Reply from *Dougie* /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4585268 I find that quite funny….
Because every few years when technology allows us to see deeper into space, the Big Bang theorists quickly revise their estimates!

I wish they would just give it away.

The primordeal atom (that’s what they call the infinitely stable mass that existed before the big bang) would have need some reason to become unstable….
An outside influence if my understanding of physics is correct.

So far, aside from the possible influence from another universe, or God, there haven’t been really any ideas as to why this may be!

if its from another universe, then clearly, our universe is in fact not a universe, because it is not all that exists…

If its God, then that’s a bit silly, because science is generally atheistic in nature!

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*Dougie* Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:15:26 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4584491 [quote Dougie the Pisces]Its not about ideas being better or worse.
I just dont subscribe to that theory!
So…. how and why did this big bang occur?[/quote]

Well the big bang, is mostly an expantion of space. So there is now ‘where’ at the big bang, the universe was literaly created. so space just expands.
We wouldn’t know why it started, and since according tot he theory nothing was know before that and cannot be known, the theory is largely beliefs, and its truth needs to be verified by its predictions…
The big bang is just a theory that explains something that cannot actually be seen. But the idea is that, when we look at the expantion of the universe, we can calculate that everything finds its origin about 13,4 billion years ago in the same spot. And hence, Big bang was born.

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lucif Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:53:11 +0100
Reply from *Dougie* /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4584423 Its not about ideas being better or worse.
I just dont subscribe to that theory!
So…. how and why did this big bang occur?

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*Dougie* Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:23:24 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4581589 [quote Tictactomm][quote lucif][quote Dougie the Pisces]Also… a new big bang probably won’t happen, because it has not been proven conclusively that the ‘old’ big bang happened at all![/quote]

true[/quote]

Got a better idea?[/quote]

an idea for what?

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lucif Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:58:57 +0100
Reply from Tictactomm /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4581280 [quote lucif][quote Dougie the Pisces]Also… a new big bang probably won’t happen, because it has not been proven conclusively that the ‘old’ big bang happened at all![/quote]

true[/quote]

Got a better idea?

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Tictactomm Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:22:34 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4580814 [quote Dougie the Pisces]Also… a new big bang probably won’t happen, because it has not been proven conclusively that the ‘old’ big bang happened at all![/quote]

true

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lucif Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:35:13 +0100
Reply from *Dougie* /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4580090 Also… a new big bang probably won’t happen, because it has not been proven conclusively that the ‘old’ big bang happened at all!

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*Dougie* Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:57:04 +0100
Reply from *Dougie* /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4580089 [quote brucebrick]The Big ang…nuclear war!! IT’S A NULEAR WAR I TELLS YAH!!!!![/quote]

I was dreaming about nuclear way long before I knew what it actually was.

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*Dougie* Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:54:24 +0100
Reply from Barbyman /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4578994 and another thing i like to mention is ::All the tablets given to us from the Doctors, we will be glowing for the next 10000Years .Just mention it .Ah well no one is listening anyway.BLAH BLAH BLAH

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Barbyman Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:30:11 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4577716 [quote Tictactomm]The world is coming to an end, but not because of technology or prophecy, but because of the second law of thermodynamics: disorder increases in a finite universe. Narp.[/quote]

Disorder always increases, but that doesn’t mean we end (in the end of course)
hell, one could even wonder if time increases because of this disorder.
In that sense (mathematically not wrong)
It will never end because of that, because time will stand still…

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lucif Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:00:57 +0100
Reply from Tictactomm /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4577669 The world is coming to an end, but not because of technology or prophecy, but because of the second law of thermodynamics: disorder increases in a finite universe. Narp.

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Tictactomm Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:44:33 +0100
Reply from ĐaNi HaŦeS ŸoŪ /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574729 yah but with all the technology and crap we have we are doomed to know before it happens

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ĐaNi HaŦeS ŸoŪ Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:35:51 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574719 I think that when the world ends, we don’t really need scientific evidence :P (but I catch your drift)

But I think that isn’t the question. If the end will come, we won’t see it comming, that is the idea of the end.
It is like terrorism, it happens best, when you don’t expect it.

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lucif Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:32:30 +0100
Reply from ĐaNi HaŦeS ŸoŪ /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574713 sure the world will end some day
just not that soon
i think when the world will end we will know and have scientific evidence when it comes

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ĐaNi HaŦeS ŸoŪ Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:27:55 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574711 sure that is inevitable, but why do you think you should worry about it now?

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lucif Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:26:19 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574710 its not going to be around forever is it, its got to end eventually

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:25:21 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574708 True, bad choice of words, but still, why do you think the world will come to an end?

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lucif Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:24:20 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574688 im not afraid

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:14:41 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574683 then why are you afraid that the world will end?

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lucif Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:14:15 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574670 i am not paranoid

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:08:12 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574669 no, it is a small hint that you are acting somewhat paranoid.

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lucif Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:07:33 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574659 [quote lucif][quote Warr3n]Or humans will end no suffering anymore; no wars, peace, or whatever.Dude, who manages life anyway, it’s a trillion dollar question.[/quote]it still would take 14 answer to get rid of US debt…[quote like.me.or.hate.me][quote lucif]okay first of all:Dinosaurs have only been here for about 500 million years. Humans (if we are lucky) 3 million years at best, homo sapiens perhaps even only a million…In about 4 billion years, yes the hydrogen on the sun will deplete slowly and the earth will be destroyed by the sun. Universe itself is only 13 billion years old….and earth has been around for about 4 billion of years… It won’t just stop existing you know.But as to the mankind, I deem it highly unlikely that no matter how hard we try, humans will extinct, we are just to numbersome. And too technologically advanced. Only ourselves can destroy eachtother. And a new big bang won’t happen.I think you are all paranoid.[/quote]hey you agreed with my reply im not paranoid XP[/quote]Perhaps paranoid isn’t the word. Perhaps you are just ‘different’. What does your psychologist say?[/quote]

is that supposed to offend me?

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:02:30 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574645 [quote Warr3n]Or humans will end no suffering anymore; no wars, peace, or whatever.Dude, who manages life anyway, it’s a trillion dollar question.[/quote]

it still would take 14 answer to get rid of US debt…

[quote like.me.or.hate.me][quote lucif]okay first of all:Dinosaurs have only been here for about 500 million years. Humans (if we are lucky) 3 million years at best, homo sapiens perhaps even only a million…In about 4 billion years, yes the hydrogen on the sun will deplete slowly and the earth will be destroyed by the sun. Universe itself is only 13 billion years old….and earth has been around for about 4 billion of years… It won’t just stop existing you know.But as to the mankind, I deem it highly unlikely that no matter how hard we try, humans will extinct, we are just to numbersome. And too technologically advanced. Only ourselves can destroy eachtother. And a new big bang won’t happen.I think you are all paranoid.[/quote]hey you agreed with my reply im not paranoid XP[/quote]

Perhaps paranoid isn’t the word. Perhaps you are just ‘different’. What does your psychologist say?

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lucif Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:58:04 +0100
Reply from Barbyman /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574642 Praise the Lord Allah. Mohamed , Buddha ,Bugs Bunny ,and naturaly barbyman.com finally it will end with the Song on my CD what have you done to my World? Cant wait…

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Barbyman Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:56:40 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574625 [quote brucebrick]anyone like my number? :)[/quote]

random. . . .

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:44:44 +0100
Reply from brucebrick /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574623 anyone like my number? :)

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brucebrick Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:43:57 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574615 [quote Warr3n]Yeah there is a possibility humans will not exist anymore, but what the heck was the point of being here in the first place, I mean wow that’s really stupid…

What are we? An ant farm for the universe? Like c’mon What the F**** that pisses me off.

Do we really have control over ourselves? Or is it inevitable.[/quote]

[quote brucebrick]i dont mean no one is of existence like other worlds dont exist i just mean no one is in the sky controlling everyone to be greatand i mean were not here for a reason if reason is to live, kill, die than we got some f’ed up minds working on us[/quote]

:O AHHHHH maby aliens are in control of us XP seriosly! theres got to be some other life form in this universe! we cant be the only life forms in this whole galaxy, thats what i mean, perhaps there is another planet with another life form on it, maby not humans or aliens, animals maby, theres another thought! who came up with aliens, its a never ending subject matter really, a question leads to another question, theres thousands of solutions!

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:41:22 +0100
Reply from brucebrick /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574614 now it’s been named :P

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brucebrick Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:41:19 +0100
Reply from brucebrick /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574611 its not a trillion dollar its a number thats never been named! its like..

baji-bali-on-palooza dollar question

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brucebrick Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:40:47 +0100
Reply from Warr3n /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574608 Or humans will end no suffering anymore; no wars, peace, or whatever.

Dude, who manages life anyway, it’s a trillion dollar question.

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Warr3n Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:39:15 +0100
Reply from brucebrick /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574604 i dont mean no one is of existence like other worlds dont exist i just mean no one is in the sky controlling everyone to be great

and i mean were not here for a reason if reason is to live, kill, die than we got some f’ed up minds working on us

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brucebrick Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:38:01 +0100
Reply from Warr3n /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574600 Yeah there is a possibility humans will not exist anymore, but what the heck was the point of being here in the first place, I mean wow that’s really stupid…

What are we? An ant farm for the universe? Like c’mon What the F**** that pisses me off.

Do we really have control over ourselves? Or is it inevitable.

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Warr3n Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:37:12 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574595 [quote Warr3n]Well, never mind, if it happened through the big bang, I still believe someone was behind it[/quote]

hey so do i, i think that theres another universe out there somewhere with another planet with people living on it just like us! its great to think about it XP

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:35:47 +0100
Reply from brucebrick /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574594 someone wants gangs to run amok and kill innocent people?
someone wants guns to exist just do they can kill people and rob stores?
someone wants people to feel so emotional to point of suicide?
someone wants people to hate other people and create wars on eachother?

I THINK NOT~~~!!!! god is not of existence nor is anyone else!!

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brucebrick Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:35:47 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574592 [quote lucif]okay first of all:Dinosaurs have only been here for about 500 million years. Humans (if we are lucky) 3 million years at best, homo sapiens perhaps even only a million…In about 4 billion years, yes the hydrogen on the sun will deplete slowly and the earth will be destroyed by the sun. Universe itself is only 13 billion years old….and earth has been around for about 4 billion of years… It won’t just stop existing you know.But as to the mankind, I deem it highly unlikely that no matter how hard we try, humans will extinct, we are just to numbersome. And too technologically advanced. Only ourselves can destroy eachtother. And a new big bang won’t happen.I think you are all paranoid.[/quote]

hey you agreed with my reply im not paranoid XP

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:34:40 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574588 [quote hey…iknowyou]Haha, Jesus wasn’t real?[/quote]

well duhh, i mean there might have been some genious of a man called jesus, but come ON a magic man who can bring people back to life yeah RIGHT, he might have been some sort of doctor with a great remidy that cured people but a magical man, yeah!!!! =/

[quote Warr3n][quote like.me.or.hate.me]i meant the big bang created the word by the ways =][/quote]No offense but I wouldn’t believe in such bs. There is a reason why we are here and there is a force out there at work than humans. I don’t think existence is an accident.Someone purposely created all of this for a reason, and that reason is yours, but yeah I was just expressing myself.[/quote]

your deep :| try looking at my post ‘have you ever thought’ i think you might like some of my thoughts on that post XP

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:33:32 +0100
Reply from Warr3n /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574585 Well, never mind, if it happened through the big bang, I still believe someone was behind it

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Warr3n Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:32:54 +0100
Reply from Warr3n /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574583 [quote like.me.or.hate.me]
i meant the big bang created the word by the ways =][/quote]

No offense but I wouldn’t believe in such bs. There is a reason why we are here and there is a force out there at work than humans. I don’t think existence is an accident.

Someone purposely created all of this for a reason, and that reason is yours, but yeah I was just expressing myself.

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Warr3n Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:32:14 +0100
Reply from lucif /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574582 okay first of all:
Dinosaurs have only been here for about 500 million years.
Humans (if we are lucky) 3 million years at best, homo sapiens perhaps even only a million…

In about 4 billion years, yes the hydrogen on the sun will deplete slowly and the earth will be destroyed by the sun.

Universe itself is only 13 billion years old….
and earth has been around for about 4 billion of years… It won’t just stop existing you know.

But as to the mankind, I deem it highly unlikely that no matter how hard we try, humans will extinct, we are just to numbersome. And too technologically advanced. Only ourselves can destroy eachtother. And a new big bang won’t happen.

I think you are all paranoid.

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lucif Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:31:43 +0100
Reply from brucebrick /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574581 lol i honestly cant wait cause i constantly think about death but im never able to do anything to myself its scary or sumtin but thats all in a different post…

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brucebrick Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:31:26 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574579 [quote brucebrick]The Big ang…nuclear war!! IT’S A NULEAR WAR I TELLS YAH!!!!![/quote]

i meant the big bang created the world :S not ending it! although there could be another big bang that shatters the earth XP

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:29:45 +0100
Reply from brucebrick /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574575 The big ang…nuclear war!! it’s a nulear war i tells yah!!!!!

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brucebrick Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:27:27 +0100
Reply from hey...iknowyou /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574574 Haha, Jesus wasn’t real?

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hey...iknowyou Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:27:07 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574573 [quote like.me.or.hate.me]There is a theory to this:The earth and the sun will get to close to eachother meaning that the earth will blow up, or everyone will die because of unbearable heat, meaning almost as hot as the sun itself, of course jesus or god wasnt real (no offence to any believers) because there is a scientific theory, the Big Bang! ok so there yas have it![/quote]

i meant the big bang created the word by the ways =]

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:26:48 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574571 There is a theory to this:

The earth and the sun will get to close to eachother meaning that the earth will blow up, or everyone will die because of unbearable heat, meaning almost as hot as the sun itself, of course jesus or god wasnt real (no offence to any believers) because there is a scientific theory, the Big Bang! ok so there yas have it!

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:26:14 +0100
Reply from brucebrick /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574570 i think itll be a nuclear war honestly

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brucebrick Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:25:50 +0100
Reply from *Dougie* /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574569 Add population growth and pollution to the equation… and you are doomed!
DOOOOOOMED I tells ya!

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*Dougie* Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:25:18 +0100
Reply from *Dougie* /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574567 The most likely end of the world will occur because civilization breaks down, due to Western society trying to turn the world into a giant factory/corporation and failing dismally.

Capitalism will utlimately collapse, because you cannot sustain infinite growth with finite resources!

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*Dougie* Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:24:26 +0100
Reply from hey...iknowyou /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574561 I think I like your dog in your avatar.

As for people predicting that the world shall end. . . . . . . No. No it will not.

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hey...iknowyou Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:22:31 +0100
Reply from *Dougie* /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574560 The Mayans did not say HOW the world will end? Or did they?
It be as simple as the world as we know it will end.
Which to me is a good thing, considering how retarded the world is and has been for some time.

Perhaps the aliens will finally show themselves.
Maybe a nuclear war.

Which of course we can survive.
Perhaps mother nature will finally say… enough is enough… and wipe out 90 per cent of the population!

Can’t wait to find out to be honest!

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*Dougie* Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:21:42 +0100
Reply from Karma Amelia /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574558 ok so you said 3 out of 4 but you listed 4 things lol…

and no sounds like bull. We were meant to die in 06/06/2006 and again this year.. oh we were also meant to die in the year 2000 at the millenium but were still here.

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Karma Amelia Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:21:39 +0100
Reply from Penguin B☺y Brian /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574556 i dont believe in that jesus **** so i dont think it will end

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Penguin B☺y Brian Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:19:55 +0100
Reply from Soph-14-94-8 /post/225133-world-coming-to-an-end#reply-4574554 Wow. . . im scared. . . 4 years left! IM ONLY 14!!! i need to do what ive always wanted to do in 4 years! i may never become an english teacher. . .OH lord have mercy on us!!!

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Soph-14-94-8 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:19:01 +0100