[Help] . Updates to this post /post/246439- Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:45:21 +0100 The post was retagged by ........ /post/246439-#reply-8813684 ........ Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:28:03 +0100 The post was edited by ........ /post/246439-#reply-8813662 ........ Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:23:14 +0100 Reply from ........ /post/246439-#reply-4792319 what a silly thing to say, New American Atheist. Fairness is giving all people the equal ability to act of their own free will. It does not mean you get to force people to talk about what YOU want them to talk about.

This is very strange for me to witness what I am seeing as the death of fairness - if this doctrine is made into law. When i was young, being raised by very opinionated and educated Democrats, I always thought we were fighting for the freedom of speech and the equality of opportunity for all people to use that freedom. I thought that, most of all, Democrats were for this.

Now I am sad to begin to find that this is NOT true. It seems to me that political parties are all the same controlling failure in the end, that even the Democrats would resort to censorship if it can be used to silence the opposite point of view.

how disappointing.

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Reply from M. Wright /post/246439-#reply-4790607 So this is how fairness dies… with thunderous applause.

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M. Wright Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:02:15 +0100
Reply from ........ /post/246439-#reply-4790567 [quote New American Atheist]That doesn’t answer my question.[/quote]

in the scenario that you presented, i believe that no, the person they are discriminating against should not be obligated to appear on the show. if they feel that they are not being represented enough, they should go start their own show.

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Reply from M. Wright /post/246439-#reply-4790546 That doesn’t answer my question.

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M. Wright Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:47:21 +0100
Reply from molotok /post/246439-#reply-4790545 I fully agree with the poster.
That is a political decision and has nothing to do with fairness. The word “democratic” can be used in many ways, too. For instance, if somebody forced the media to highlight the word “democratic” in the names of the Chinese democratic republic, in the German Democratic Republic (DDR) and other “democratic” countries and show it in all papers and tv-stations, the Democrats would be furious because they would know it would be to soil the word democratic.

Now, the real problem is that the media is not balanced. They should look further into who is controlling it, and nurse a more politically balanced media environment. I don’t know the name of the institution, but there is a body to look after that, similarly to how they look after illegal trusts.

The problem of unfair TV shows will solv itself if there were all directions. An unfair show would lose their viewers. If a show passes a certain line and is getting too nasty, it is subject to fines from yet another body. Just make those institutions work!

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molotok Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:47:16 +0100
Reply from ........ /post/246439-#reply-4790539 new american atheist, are these questions for me or for soy?

i think that if the media is not presenting something that is obscene or dangerous, the media should be able to say whatever it wants to say. it doesn’t matter what political party they are supporting. it doesn’t matter who they are representing or who they are discriminating against. just because we don’t like what they say doesn’t mean that we should be able to prevent them from speaking.

to me, the idea, “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” (voltaire) should apply.

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Reply from ........ /post/246439-#reply-4790513 yeah, i knew the fact that my first news source is from fox would come up. that’s just where i heard about the issue first. after that i did some research on my own.

soy277, do you think that the majority of television is republican, democratic, or even?

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Reply from M. Wright /post/246439-#reply-4790510 The freedom of speech is the right to express and transmit information and ideas. It is not a freedom to prohibit others from speaking.

What would you say if I told you that CNN had a panel talking about discrimination against a certain group in America? What if not a single person from that group was on that panel? What if the caption on the screen said, “Why do people from this group inspire such hatred?” What if one panel member said, “They need to just shut up.”?

Is that right? Or should they have allowed the people they were criticizing a chance to speak? Do you think that the people providing information to the American public should be allowed to say which groups should “shut up” as they put it?

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M. Wright Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:37:54 +0100
Reply from soy277 /post/246439-#reply-4790499 its funny how one of your sources is fox news - because that is a conservative news station. I think its important that the media is fair and balanced - its when the entire media becomes too one sided when problems begin. Look at what happened prior to the Iraq war. Did anyone question Bush’s decision to attack? Not that I can rememeber. I dont think TV stations would have to change their point of view necessarily, maybe they could just get a few more Republican guests to give their opinion about something on the show - or even launch a new show with a conservative point of view.

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soy277 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:35:13 +0100
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