Sanni - I just wanted to thank you very much for all of your advice and guidance. It has meant alot that you have taken the time to help me through my stuff.
If you ever need to talk about anything please know that I am here to help you too. I really love this site and am trying to help others as well as receive help. It has helped give me back my love of consueling and helping others. I had lost that for awhile. I am here if you need anything. Have a good day. Hugs - Michele (broussardhhh)
That’s what I have been trying to demonstrate with the story. But you are the singer with your song.
I will think and hope for the best for you though, even if I dont pray for you.
I am not the robber and murderer but I am very much like him in that I am a non believer.
Now who is teasing who? I love you the way you are. It’s nice for me to be able to talk to some one about religion, without it all getting out of hand.
I know we both respect each others views and beliefs.
And please note that I have not tried to get you to see things different, from what you see them at the moment.
I would have you no other than who you realy are.
Well like I already said keep on teasing but dont ever give up your hopes and beliefs or trying to do what you know is right for you to do. Once you know for certain that something is true, then you can do nothing more than to believe in it.
I am quite open to you doing what is right. I dont wish to mediate with you. I dont wish for the prayers.
The idea of the story was that the one brother never gave up on the other. At the end it didn’t matter that the brother that had died accepted God. The fact that he did accept is enough.
But please do keep teasing me. I enjoy your concern for me, this is not meant to be nasty or offend. It is your duty as a christain to do the things that God wants you to do.
I dont think it makes me or you any better than the other. As long as we live a decent life trying our best to do what is right for and towards each other.
I dont know how to answer that, there are two ways to look at religion. Either it is true or it isn’t.
After looking at and studdying the facts that are available, one makes their choice.
Each person should accept the other persons view of this. Without trying to force their own view on the other.
Neither one nor the other is right or wrong. it is their own choice.
No what I mean is that this was apparently a true story set in the early 1900s.
The story is as told below. The priest brother never gave up, but at the end he didn’t know if it was god that had made his brother accept god. Or if the robber brother did it for the sake of of making amends to the priest brother.
Hear is a thought for you, about the believer and the non-believer.
It’s about two brothers one is a believer and becomes a priest. The other is a robber and murderer.
The priest tries all of their lives to show his brother love and kindness. With no apparent success. Untill the robber, murderer one dies.
Then it is the question of ” Is it the singer or is it the song” That conquers in the end.
I hope you get the idea of what I’m trying to say.
Hi Sanni, Im so sorry,it seems i took an opportunity and ran with it:/ I would really like to add something to your last post,I swear I will not go off topic again.In fact it will be straight as a arrow.If not, no hard feelings.i understand :)
Yes your study is going to long and at times hard but at the same time rewarding beyond measure.
I am glad that you found it alright to tell me what it is you are studdying. I am glad you enjoy it so much.
I think that I have now fully recovered from my past depressions and will never let it rule my life again. I was lucky that I am strong in lots of ways, that helped me to conquer my past.
As long as you are honest (and I know that you are) then you can talk about anything you wish to.
No, I wont be offended by what the subject is.
I have a feeling it is to do with religion. I studdied the bible with others and by myself for many years. I wont go into it in detail but I would not be able to reject it as not true (to me that is) , if I hadn’t a clue as to what it is about.
Others that I am still friendly with are still very much into their faith in their religion. In fact some of them went on to being minnisters of churches.
I would hate to be one of those persons that run down religion just because I dont believe.
It meant a lot to me at one time in my life, it means a lot to other people in their lives.
It is the constant bombardment of shoving it down other peoples throats, that is wrong.
So no I wont be annoyed or upset if that is what you are studdying.
Some time ago I used to wake in the morning and cry that I had not died in the night. The most awfull thing was that I had to be alive for another day.
Now it is a wonder and a joy to wake up to a fresh new day, It is a beautiful world we live in. We just need to find the good that is in it.
Hello Sanni, I hope we can be friends on here, I am relatively new on here but so far all of your posts are interesting, I would just like to say that we should be pleading with them on behalf of help.com and the world not to kill themselves etc.
I am doing great, this last year has been kind to me so far and it looks like it will continue that way.
I so much love my life and the beauty that surrounds me. I am very lucky and appreciate all of it.
How is your life treating you?
I will not be going to church with anyone, my church days are long ago and passed.
Please accept this, church is for those that believe in it and want it, not for those that know there is no god and dont want or need the church.
lol… the oak tree, and bushes are around my house :) The lion? well my daughter is very accomplished with the program Photoshop. She found the perfect picture of a lion and cut and pasted it into my picture somehow :) She’s very talented :)
Well lets say that her family is in London and she went to Ireland on a holiday about 10 years ago, moved there and is still living there. So I would say she loves it.
and i stand by what i say.
you have no right to tell me what to say if you dont want the same in return.
i was honest.thats more than i can say for a lot of you.
i did not berate him.
if you will read what i said and actually take it in, you will see that all i said was lets not give the guy a sainthood.
it seems everyone makes him out to be this amazing guy, when in actual fact he was rude, abrasive and downright pushy and nasty with his views.
as for silverwings, to be frankly honest, i have no respect for her whatsoever. she is also pushy and narrowminded with her views.
you really think i dont know what grief feels like? i know. it hurts.
but to me, if someone came out saying my dad was the greatest guy ever i would completely disregard them and feel like they were disrespecting his memory, because he simply wasnt that.
whats your point here? whats your angle? it seems every christian on this site bar one or two are having a go at me for speaking my mind here. is that not what you fight for here? to have the freedomn to express your christian views? mine arent christian,but i have every right to say what i think.
Im well aware of the real people behind posters. i happen to be dating one.
i also feel extremely strongly, that just because someone has died does not mean they are automatically in line for sainthood. Not only myself had problems with Scatt, many people on the site did, and he exchanged words with many dedicated christians here also who felt his words and behaviour did not reflect christ.
i know grief. very well. My father died 2 weeks ago. but that doesnt mean i discount all the imperfections he had and make him some sort of pillar of the community, for i know he was not. i know the same about scatt. just because he has died will not change my views of him at all.
I said what i said in the most respectful manner i could, and i am in no way responsible for the comments from anons that followed.
hi sanni, thank you. i havent read about Silverwings yet, but if shes grieving i certainly will pray for her to get thru this. i certainly no how difficult loosing a loved one is. its unbearable. b well, r