Nope. Not THAT much to leave everything behind.Not even close!
[quote a_bandoned]maybe because she is waiting on his word?[/quote]
Well that’s impossible. He doesnt live in the country I am. He doenst have her phone or mail or email. Its impossible to wake up and think of her, cause he is nothing to her?!
I maybe deserve better, but I need to unstuck that mind - which is so smart and witty - from those lies she’s feeding herself.
[quote a_bandoned]what makes you think you can’t live without this person?[/quote]
Everything she has done for me, and I have done with her. 6 years now, we gave everything to eachother. I can’t believe that she s actually knowing that she s telling lies about this mostly to HERSELF.
But I am human, I need her as she needs me; and I know she would have left by now - that’s why I am insisting staying with her. She had many times the option to drop off. And she didn’t.
I believe she doesnt want to admit she needs me, and wants to go brag about her so-much-heavy-indepedency.
Problem is that she always been faithful to me! That’s a fact 10000000%. That’s why I dont believe she ’s talking seriously.
And the bad bad baddest thing of all is that this common friend of ours, wont tell her “Sh*t it up and move with what you had coz you are OK there, and he loves you more than anything”, but she believes every word she says! And says “yes then if you are in love then go”.
I mean, I can’t believe it. Don’t you all believe that she ’s LYING? I mean you dont change points of view from one day to another!!!!
[quote a_bandoned]well, ok, that’s better than i thought at least….i still would move on[/quote]
Don’t know if I can. I can’t lose her.
[quote a_bandoned]are you saying that she is burning your skin?[/quote]
Not litterally :P
[quote Itami_]I agree with him. You deserve better. Are you willing to give your all to someone who’s only half way there. I mean I fantasize about celebs and..others.. but not to the point where my partner would feel threatend maybe jealous, but not threatend. Talk to her have her hear you out and tell her you don’t appreciate being second to anything. Especialy if you made her first. You don’t have a rope holding her down you guys are in this together, but if she insists on hurting you with these outrages lies then you have the right to leave. You love her make that clear, but also make clear that love between you two is a choice one that must be respected and individualized. Talk to her. Then take it from there[/quote]
This is something that I fully agree to that. But I can’t lose her,I volunteer to be with her, like everytime a foolish idea has stuck to her mind.
[quote a_bandoned]i’m confused….what do you mean not burning your skin all the time? and why would you want to be with someone that will pick up and go with a single word from another person?? it sounds like you are dependent. i was once with an abusive boyfriend who cheated on me countless times. i mainly stayed because i thought what we had i could never have again. i should have ended it sooner. time heals. i know it doesn’t seem like that now, but it does. you ARE better off.[/quote]
I meant that she is hurting me like burning my skin.
I know, and you are right. But I really really think that she started to admire and then admiration began a lie to that friend and then she believed it. That’s why I am SO patient until now.
[quote a_bandoned]it is going to be hard, but you don’t deserve this. you are better off without her. you know what to do.[/quote]
I don’t know if I am better without her. Surely I don’t believe that she could be better without ME. We have been through very very hard stuff. We are almost best friends. She supposing to be truthful to me. And not burning my skin all the time. I love her with all faith, mind, body, everything. And I believe that she said those things to seem “independent” to that friend. And lie to lie to lie she began to really believe it. And I am waiting too long to get that thing out of her mind. Because It will, if its just a deception made by her.
[quote a_bandoned]well, if she is telling other she will leave you for someone else i would seriously talk to her about it[/quote]
I tried once. She denies that she wants a sexual relationship. But she have admitted in front me that “the only thing that will take me away from a relationship is he himself”.
She says that and then she says this.
My patience is out, I am broken, and first of all I can’t stand her lies she’s telling behind my back about this matter.
[quote lack_witty_nam]I would say don’t go snooping in your Mom’s drawers…she is an adult with adult desires that likes some things you may not approve or like, but so be it. Her life, be happy she is not a repressed woman that takes out all that pent up energy on you with physical abuse, and know she is more open minded than you thought and that you can talk to her about anything.[/quote]
I believe lack said it all.
Sure its very shocking when we think of the kinky stuff that our parents my have, but still thanks to those thinks we are born…
that sex chapter between our parents its just a topic we dont wanna know… So we leave it… and yes no snooping in mommies’ drawers…!
[quote a_bandoned]i think it is normal to think about others, especially celebrities. now, thinking and acting are totally different. keep that in mind. are you saying you never fantasize about others?[/quote]
fantasize by the type of scr*wing with them NO. And I believe she is all for me, I cant fantasize when I have everything I want. Romantic maybe.
[quote Itami_]Is she not paying attention to you? Not loving you. I’m having trouble helping becuase I don’t know the whole situation. How did this all come about?[/quote]
It was a group she liked a lot. And all of the sudden, likeness became a pain in the a**, and she started talking to our best friend secretly from me that she is thinking about him and that she would leave me if she had a proposal from him. The guy talked to her only once on a concert. She is claiming that she’d like to go work where HE works, like a designer, and leave me here. I don’t know really and that friend of hers, isnt very helpful to me. She almost said to her that she cheated on me with him! And something like that never happened because we were together for 6 or 7 days due to day-offs.
[quote Coalesce]Forbidden fruit my friend… tastes the sweetest. That and you have to take into account 4 billion years of evolutionary history.Yah yah, so we’ve had 2,000 years give or take a couple hundred teaching us to be faithful and true to our special partner.Breeding with different partners however is evolutionarily adaptive (better for the species) it increases genetic variation thus reducing the risk for recessive genetic alleles (such as those that cause Down’s Syndrome, Hemophelia, Parkinsons, etc…).So, we have 4 billion years of genetic conditioning ‘telling’ us to breed with various partners and 2,000 years of cultural training to be monagamous. How does this size up? That’s .00005% of our genetic history.Let’s say you sit in a classroom for 8 hours and they train you to press the red button. Now for the last 15 seconds, someone tought you to press the blue button. Now they give you a job pressing buttons… odds are, you are going to screw up and press the wrong button a few times.[/quote]
Then maybe I am too faithful…
And I dont believe in multiple companions, or free relationships.
[quote Itami_]”O” well that’s tricky because she’s not cheating on you, but at the same time your not swiveling around in her mind the way she may be in yours. Doesn’t sound fair, but also doesn’t sound like something to be jealous of unless there is another man.[/quote]
yes that’s the problem!
I can’t talk to her about that, but right now I am feeling alone, sh*tty, and like drowned, I can’t smile, you know she haunts my head, my senses, why she is acting like this? I need to cry :’(
2008-09-30 11:25:32 on I need a song.
That’s symbolic and a bit difficult to find, but Youtube-it.
“Kitty’s Dead” by “Seraphim Shock”
my woman fantasizing another man
like a celebrity and make stories out of their head :O