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Well why don’t you check out the website. I’m sure they could use someone of your skill set. That is, if your interested. Maybe your happy with our current state of affairs. That’s your right, and I can’t take that away from you.

Plumber. I worked as a foreman until nov. last year.

Perhaps you should think some more on that. In my eyes that would probably happen within the next 20 to 30 years.

What do you do in construction? I worked in framing for a while, I’m assuming that’s what you do. Though, are you running the business, the foreman, or just a framer?

One can only guess. Still i see no possible threat in robots taking over my job any time in my lifetime.

In this society, it’s impossible to say what can or can’t be done without being an expert in the field.

100 years to evolve?

With the way system is now, robots overtaking the workforce would be at least ten years away. And with the pressure of corporations and governments, it’ll probably be twice that.

However, when such things are possible, who’s to say the government and greedy will still want the people around? Once there are robots that can outperform people on a mass scale, what power does the people have left against oppressors?

It truly is a terrifying scenario. I really doubt that the truly rich and powerful ruling class will give up their position. I have no clue what will happen.

Also the robotics need 100 years to evolve.

Now, I’m sure the Jules is programmed with predefined things to say. But the potential is nonetheless there with a larger work force of programmers.

Well… I work in construction and i know a little about the issues needed to be solved. If one is able to make a human like robot with similar strength, learning and abilities it would be a little more realistic. We know that it´s no were near that yet.

I appreciate the time involved to create these robots. But they are from impossible, and are inevitable.

Nah, with enough computer programmers, we can achieve pretty intelligible and capable robots. Have you seen the ones that are in development right now?

This ones from a Hanson robotics and was built in 2005 2006. It’s going to a university though, and isn’t designed to be on the market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZNRyO…

If robots could do all the work that is dangerous and critical they would. Like welding robots.

That’s a big if though. There already are a lot of investors in the robotics industry. But they’re also very cautious not to upset the balance of the working and unemployed.

Wrong..
Robotics have no chance of performing like a human. Just typing in commands would take years and years. We need to go a lot further before we have any shot.

The basics of the idea is doable but one need people working on the floor. Automotive ideas just comes short for now.

I actually went into robotics at college. I dropped out though.

I think the pervading concept is that in a system with planned obsolescence as a fundamental process, the full potential of technology will never be fully accessible to the public. If enough money was put into robots, they could right now take over the work force in a few years. But we won’t do that, because the monetary system is dependent upon the sweat off our backs.

You need to get the whole world, all the countries to go for this. That´s not going to happen. Who is gonna trust some guy with this kind of idea?

Also, human experience is worth a lot. The idea of making computers and machines do all the work is far off what´s possible. I also saw several flaws in the presentation. Like a mechanic should be there to fix cars.. It´s just like the system is today. Nothing new with onboard computers either. Cars have diagnostic tools to assist with electronics on new cars. I see nothing new there.

I think it’s smart that they haven’t laid out any plan yet. It allows for all the intelligent people who will subscribe to make their contributions to a better society.

Well your right about all that. I’m not sure how they’re resource economy will work, and I’m pretty sure they haven’t figured that out yet. Economical systems are complex theories and need to be well formulated. As I said, the main priority right now, is awareness of the problems and consequences of failure to act. The plans and solutions are being formulated as we speak.

They talk about delegating decisions to computers. I think that would be a founding part of their resource economy, in that the computers would determine what resources are needed and desired for each city, and if there were other cities, trade would be among them to acquire the proper quantities and distribution.

However, our system is still very much monetary, and there really is nothing we can do about that. We have no choice but to subscribe to that system, and so, that’s going to have to be a part of this project for at least ten years, if not more.

I don´t mind it being too long actually. It´s nice to see a well planned explanation. Still there is a lot missing.

I think that plans for how to make the transformation needs to be presented. No government will give in to such an organisation. Also i would like to know how this idea came to be and exactly how one thinks it´s gonna be possible solutions without trade. Seems like making tha world one unit is the first obstackle. I don´t see that as being a techno problem…. Give it a thousand years to grow and i might be changing my mind. For now i see too many problems to see the solution.

I’m sorry if it was more than you expected. It was an hour and a half. Maybe I’ll edit the post to add that. I did warn you, by saying that many will have understood much and said you could skip parts if you want to. I just don’t the people who don’t understand to skip through half and miss the founding concepts.

Tell me what you thought about the presentation? Do you think this organization might be corrupt at the heart too?

After doing more research it seems possible, but not probable. Technically I’d say it’s also propaganda, but there are good forms of propaganda. This one exemplifies that, in my opinion.