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holly eden
1 year, 6 months ago

hello again, Matt: how are you doing these days? See your name with Jonetta on many posts so somethings are going well.
I’m just settling into my new life up north–a bit of a stretch sometimes but God is in HIs Kingdom and as Pipi Longstockings said “all is right with the world.”
Look to hear from you.
blessings!

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holly eden
1 year, 8 months ago

hOORAY! Awesome news! You can call anytime, Matt. It is 8:28PM here. I have company for about another hour.
If you are still up in an hour give me a ring.
God bless you, brother! God is good!

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none999
1 year, 8 months ago

Holly Eden,

Thank you so much for your shout, for the bible, and for your number. I may call you later. I must say that this ordeal has taken my faith to a new level. I know what is imporatant now. Petty anxieties will never again have a foothold in my mind. All I want to do is give my love before it’s too late.

It’s true, I was very afraid the other night. The enemy greatly desires to afflict my love for Jonetta, which I take to be a sign that God has willed great things for it. I was experiencing attacks of worry. It was very horrible. But now I am at peace with things, much more so than ever before. I am not afraid of anything now. I’m not even afraid of losing her, for in that case she would simply be reunited with her family in the presence of God, and that could never bring me to grief. I was only afraid of having to live with myself if I never told her how wonderful she is, never showed her how much I loved her.

I had a vision while I was praying for Jonetta of how God was going to turn this all around for good. I know we can not scrutinize his purposes, but I saw something. From this accident, many hearts will be healed. Jonetta will find herself, her companion, and her happiness. I will have a woman to love and protect, someone to fight for with honor. Together we will become a force for the good of the world. All who have seen these events take place have been transformed for them, and who knows how many acts of courage and love will spring from that?

This is strong stuff, I know. Do you mind me sharing this with you? Will you agree with me in faith that it is so? What would be a good time to call? I would love to talk to you.

Concerning the reports of pneumonia, I do not believe them. I don’t know if you have any medical experience, and I don’t have formal training in it, but I would like you to follow a chain of reasoning with me. Gary also mentioned that her fever had abated. If this is so, then she can not possibly have any infectious pneumonia. The fact that she’s coughing is actually good, because it is precisely the lack of a functioning cough reflex that leads to complications with pneumonia. She is clearing her lungs now from the effects of the cough suppressants they had given her. If she has any inflamation aroung the lungs, it must be the effects of the trauma, and should only be, or mainly be, on one side. I really believe now that she will be fine, and I’m standing firm in that. I will probably talk to her tonight, and I believe we’ll here that she is better.

Again, thank you so much. Talk to me and tell me what you feel. Let us share the faith that this is all redounding to God’s glory.

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holly eden
1 year, 8 months ago

My friend, how are you doing tonight. The news about pneumonia is not so hot! However, the Lord is strong! Please continue to pray IN FAITH. Keep your eyes on Jesus, not on the problem! Or we’ll all be like Peter who got out of the boat; he began to walk on the sea but as soon as he took his eyes off Jesus and looked at the sea he became frightened and began to sink.
“Oh, ye of little faith” the Lord said to him.
We need to believe Jesus–not the facts here on earth. There is no sickness, tears or poverty or death in heaven–so we can pray for His healing to be released into Jonetta’s body in Jesus’ name. He has given us ALL authority (not just a little bit). I’m keeping Gary uplifted as well and you, too, Fronde. I know how much you care for Jonetta.

Give me a shout! I talked to Jonetta about 3PM (their time). She was very tired but she’s hanging in there.

Fronde, I’m asking the Lord right now for a verse for you from the Bible! I heard him say Deuteronomy 10. Please read it, Matt (I hope it’s OK I call you that).
What really jumps out at me in this chapter, what God IS SAYING TO YOU TONIGHT,
“He is your praise and He is your God, who has done these great and awesome things for you which your eyes have seen”. V21
I hope you have a Bible tucked away somewhere so you can read this–God’s talking to you. The Lord says you ‘hear His voice; do not fear; be of good courage and trust Me for I do all things well. Today IS a new day. Look not to the things of the past but look ahead. Keep your eyes on My beautiful face–Jesus.
I AM your King and your God. I AM with you. I will never leave nor forsake you–have I not said I will be with you until the end of the age?
Be blessed, Matt.
Look to hear from you.
If you are interested my call number is six zero four; five three five; six zero one seven.
Be blessed. HUGS

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holly eden
1 year, 8 months ago

“No great problem in history was ever solved, until somebody made it personal”.
I like that, Fronde!
That’s my motto toward the First Nations peoples of Canada. And also my mission to snatch back as many young people from suicide as I am able! God willing! It’s Him allowing me to take part in it!

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holly eden
1 year, 8 months ago

Thanks for the report from Gary. It’s not a great one but it’s news. Thanks so much. Gosh, it must be 2:00 am thereabouts where you live–you need to get some rest! We’ll all keep praying for Jonetta.
And I’ll keep you in my heart and prayers, too. You’ve made a real heart connection with her. It’s hard being so far away and out of touch and not know what is really going on.
However, there are NO barriers in the spiritual dimension. In the spirit you are right with her along with me and everyone else who is praying for her. Let’s continue to hold her before the Lord. God IS good–all the time God is good.
Bless you, Fronde.
Have a good night.

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holly eden
1 year, 8 months ago

P.S. Love you!

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holly eden
1 year, 8 months ago

Matt: Rest easy, friend. Jonetta is well where she is. The Lord IS with her. Even believers have a rough time sometimes believing God’s word over circumstances that happen to us in life. I am certain deep down inside of Jonetta there is a war going on with God–many, many unanswered questions–WHY, WHY WHY!
She is such a delight. I encourage you to think thoughts of blessing towards her; see
her in your mind’s eye as healed not sick.
Otherwise we project illness towards her.
I know your philosophy and mine are different at present but I encourage you to
rest in the fact she has a heavenly Father who loves her way more than any of us could possibly do. God seems to take all the flack for the bad stuff thathappens in this world. Fortunately He doesn’t hold our silliness against us.
If you want to send your phone number to Gary, why don’t you simply spell it out in numbers. You won’t be the first person to do so on the site.
I’m praying for you, too.
God bless. Keep in touch.

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none999
1 year, 8 months ago

I won’t be OK until I see her through this. I’m tied up in agony about her. As you may have noticed, this is now personal for me. Not because of the past—that’s over. But because of what has happened since then. I care for her, and there are things we really need to talk about. Some things she confided in me struck me in the heart. I’m freaking out here, not knowing the proper course of action. Any advice or encouragement you can give would be very appreciated. I don’t mean prayer; I’m doing that anyway. I must figure out what I can do for her.

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holly eden
1 year, 8 months ago

Hi Matt:
What a beautiful poem you wrote Jonetta–we were all blessed by it.
How are you doing, my friend? Hope you are well these days. We are all watching and praying for our little one. We prayed for her tonight in our group at the Healing Rooms. Lots of prayer arrows being sent up for our little friend. Kind of nice, isn’t it?
Give me a shout! would love to hear from you.
Blessings.

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none999
1 year, 9 months ago

You’re very kind, Holly. In answer to your question, I havn’t merely gone through major losses in my life—I never really had anything to lose. Sure, I have parents, family, and whatnot, but they’re scum. I never had them inwardly to begin with.

Tapdancer21 is quite correct when she refers to me as “hard and clinically cold”, but I never viewed those qualities as a liability. Just think of me as a rogue, sort of Han Solo-ish.

She is incorrect, however, when she describes ne as “lacking in compassion or empathy”. I am a creature of the aristocracy and my care is the care of all. When you identify yourself with the meaning of world-history (the aristocratic prerogative) you inherit many burdens. I am not “The Fronde” for no reason. Empathy is the very quality I possess in abundance, but “When thou looks long into the abyss, the abyss looks also into thee.”—Fredrick Nietzsche.

By the way, I left a full explanation of my remarks in Tapdancer’s shoutbox. If you care to know the rest of the story, you can find it there.

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holly eden
1 year, 9 months ago

Hi again: I’m on a roll–I hope you don’t mind reading with me here. For any person working through loss of spouse/parent/child it takes six months at least for the full realization of what has happened to sink in.
Amazingly, we are wrapped in cottonwool of a sort during those six months which allow our minds to very gradually allow the full realization of the loss to sink in.
eople say the first year is the worst–the first anniversary dates/birthdays, etc.; however the second year for me was harder–
I forgot to prepare myself for them because I thought the first year was it.
Year 3–absolute exhaustion–depression; hopelessness; not feeling any less pain and wondering if it will ever go away.
Somewhere between year 3 and 4 most people will make a conscious decision they must turn around and face life fully. They realize they need/must relinquish the person who is no longer with them and go on without them. This is a decision and a passage into an easier road.
Year 5. Well, you’re never without it completely but it’s OK. You know you’re going to make it whether you want to or not.

Compounds grief–is even more difficult. Many people will have had losses in early years (divorces in families–a mother or father disappearing–grandparents; moving from one country to another is a huge loss for a child; etc. etc. Teenagers especially cannot resolve grief and it is in later life, often in midtwenties they begin to deal with the pain of their earlier years.
If they haven’t processed the pain of loss in a healthy way and they experience another major loss (say a divorce or death of close friend or spouse) they suddenly are totally incapacitated by compounded grief–a lifetime of unresolved issues.

Bless you, brother. Thank you for hearing me out. I read in your profile you wanted some help in the “love department” and this is what my reply is really all about.

Real love, agape, unconditional love–acceptance of a person in whatever condition they happen to be today this moment in time. Just loving and accepting.

Every one of us has our personal ‘truth’ in us–we just need to speak it out often enough one day we CATCH it from within.

God bless you. Hope to talk with u again.

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holly eden
1 year, 9 months ago

Fronde: good answer you gave me. Forgive me please–I love Tapdancer21 and I kind of reacted to reading your post to her. On re-reading tonight I understand what you were trying to say to her as you see it through your eyes.
May I ask you a simple question–have you gone through major losses in your life? and have you ever gone through the grieving process–underneath anger is pain most of us would do almost anything rather than walk through its fire.
My personal experience of the grieving and what I have learned from MANY classes in grief support and hospice work is that grieving is a process. One of the necessary things ‘friends’ do for a person in a grieving process is to encourage them to tell their story, over and over and over again. I’ve done it myself–I’ve been through that tunnel–it’s awful and it feels like death! It is a death! and actually I think physical death is easier.
(I mean the actual passing from this sheath of existence into immortality–pure spirit.
Honestly working through grief into emotional health is about the hardest work a person can do.
I believe I understand you were encouraging TD21 to face her pain–but you know, God gave us amazing minds–we have the ability to create shields for ourselves to protect our stability in times of loss and disaster–otherwise we wouldn’t survive.
The only thing I have learned and I would encourage you to do as well is to simply listen to any person in TD’s situation is to
HEAR their reality! It’s all they have at the particular moment they are sharing with you. And it’s all they can handle.

You should never take away what a person relies on for emotional or spiritual support until they have something else stronger and better to hang on to.

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none999
1 year, 9 months ago

Why would you be afraid for my future? I’m not in any trouble.

Let’s get one thing straight right now. What I wrote to Tapdancer21 was not a curse at all. It was good solid advice. I don’t dislike this girl, but she has the annoying habit of being unable to resist tossing in complimentary references to herself at every opportunity. I don’t really need to know that she drives a jag, for instance. How would this situation be any different if she drove a Hyundai? I have no sympathy for people who are so desperate for attention that their own (perhaps genuine) misfortune is instantly subtleized into a means for the manipulation of others.

I wasn’t cursing anybody. What I said was exactly what she needed to hear.

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holly eden
1 year, 9 months ago

I disagree with you, my friend. The Fronde
is not ‘listening’. I am hurt and offended by your comments to Tapdancer21. And I am concerned for your future.
There is an unwritten law of nature in this world–we reap what we sow. If you sow curses you will reap cursing.
I don’t know what has happened to you in your short life, but I’m praying you will learn to forgive those who have hurt you. We forgive because it releases us–it doesn’t release the person who hurt us–but it frees me and you from carrying bitterness and perpetuating a cycle of pain and suffering.
I’m praying for you you find release and freedom.
Blessings. God b

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