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I would recomend the Aubrey/Maturin Series by Patrick O’Brian if you can learn quickly.

What type of books do you like reading?

Now it is antiquated because people are more loose then they were back then, so many things people do today were taboo then.

They viewed it as everyone would know and follow the beliefs that were domianant. It was a system that worked. It doesn’t really make sense to your 21st century mind, you have to think like they did in the 18th century. Its sorta hard to explain.

Actucally it was. They were all some form of Catholics, the modern government is still mostly Christian, that was their world back then. Lapa, I did have a reliable source but din’t know where it was from, but I can say it was from some dusty old american history book. Don’t worry about the journalism part, I know how it is.

Lapa, you are mistaken. That is the modern interpretation. The founding fathers actually wanted it to be centered in christianity, which it was for many many years.

Yes I do. Its still in there though.

Jefferson wasn’t the only one who formed our government. Just a rehash though : On money “In God we trust”; Pledge of alligence “One nation under God”; ect.
You cannot say it is completely secular. And when is gov’t and religion always an awful mess?

Exactly, and the Church wouldn’t allow it anyway. Just a side note, our government was founded on religion so it will never be completely secular.

Lol, we hijacked the thread.

Yes, you do. But there is some play with the word. THat is the main stopping point. So then they are going for a CIVIL UNION.

Not really, marriage implies that it is a religiously affiliated union.

When I say marriage has a religious connotation it is a religious term. People that have secular “marriages” actually have a civil union. Thats what my aunt and uncle did. I don’t understand why people think that one is higher than the other, they both achieve the same end.

Are you serious? Wow, I have blown so many oportunities.

What if you haven’t talked with her?