Richard cor de lyon's shout trail with name with no face - Help.com

I’ve gone ahead and opened my email to you :)

thanks for checking :)

“I think we are really not too different in our beliefs…” i was just about to say that…

also… my response to your last shout got kindof really long… (twice as long the last one) should i go ahead and shout it? or would it be more prudent to email you cuz its seems nearly absurd to have such a long shout… but if you don’t mind i don’t mind…

no worries about the venue, and I truly appreciate the shouts instead of the posts. You know what I think? I think we are really not too different in our beliefs… we just come to the middle from different ends. You believe in happiness, and I believe in sorrow. you come from the sorrow / pain perspective and I come from the happiness / joy perspective. They must all exist we agree on that. We cannot have one without the other… I think we agree on that too. I have experienced days where one bit of good news has changed the entire mood of that day! It really is not so difficult (with practice) to do that by will alone. I’ve done it. Life is a perspective… we assign the meaning. Even victims do not have to say victims. They can overcome their pain, rise above it and gather to themselves the gift of what happened to them; again I’ve seen it done. Can you flip a switch and do it? Yes, but not right away.. .not at first. It’s a trial and error process. Ignorance is bliss. OK that’s a pretty good excuse to be ignorant… BUT if someone is so ignorant to know that the Train racing down the track that you happen to be standing on is more than a bright light heading your way then you deserve what you get. I DON’T throw knowledge and wisdom to the wind for the sake of being optimistic… I rather say, use your knowledge and wisdom for good, and I swear to you, you will be happy in return. No Face, I’m NOT one way or the other… I’m not be all this at the sake of all else. I am more truly about Oneness… if anything THAT is my religion, Oneness. Microcosm in the Macrocosm. It is in Oneness were that gray comes in that you were talking about… good/bad divine/diabloical… there IS Now. I just want the best Now there can be. I’ll take the bad with it.. no big deal anymore (not to me) ’cause I know the good is entwined in there with it, and I’ll get it too!

UGGH>.. sorry… i mean to cut that out and simply ask you for another venue for me to send it to you becuase it got a lot longer than i thought it would be… again very very sorry..

hardly a soap box, i actualy spoke here instead of on one of your posts becuase i thought it would be more private. also the rest of what i only been responding to what you say on my soap box, and i don’t have such a devote following as you, so while my words mean nothing to the others who support you, your words could effectively blacklist me. but read on I’m not just squabbling, there seems to be a misunderstanding here.

you missed the point of the last thing i said. i wasn’t talking about an addiction to you, what you teach, or happiness. your preaching can come with many side effects you seem to ignore (a side effect of pain medication is commonly dependency). i attempt to address points of view relating to these side effects like a little warning label, while you continue scraping that label off. its not like im the powerful one, you don’t need to be so emphatic about puny little me unless you feel threatened by a fine print warning label. (fine print as in most people look at and ignore)

on a different note, yes you can be addicted to happiness in an unhealthy way. when its not real. and real happiness is not something you can guarantee from your preaching, but it is what you lead people on to believe, and for those where it is not real, the addiction can be very very unhealthy. but this (what i said about unreal happyness) can be ignored since its not the point i was trying to make to you here.

oh yeah, am i happy, truly happy, no. but thats ok. i’m content. happyness is fleeting, thats why its so special, otherwise it becomes the status quo. which while better than bad, would be flavorless, lackluster, and insubstantial thing we just are, when it should be a deep and profound revelation. its like handing out self realization in simple pill form. you can’t do it, and shouldn’t even if you could. so while i have been truly happy only a slight few times in my life, and am not now, im content to wait until happiness visits once again, even if that wait is a whole lifetime.

if you have a more private channel you would hear me through, i’d be glad to get off of this “soap box” of yours for anything else we have left to discuss. but to leave this on a friendlier note. i’m not calling you out as a bad-guy. like the miracle of modern medicine that pain medication is, you do very much good for very many people, and i wouldn’t ever try to stop you,… unless you really did turn out to be the devil ;)

oh, and just so we are clear. I do know the power I have. I respect that completely.

we are all capable of every emotion, every feeling… the dark side of mankind can be very dark. I own that. I can go there. Listen, You are the one that showed up in my shout box using it for your personal soap box. Anything I say to you is fair game, and trust me I’ve said far less than what I’ve felt.

So, people might become dependent upon an optimistic perspective in life. Because for the most part this is what I teach. How can that be bad? I’ve NEVER said bad things don’t happen! Quite the opposite really. Bad things happen all the time, it’s how we react to those things that define us.

Why don’t you want to happy No Face?

the first part i deleted… it pretty much said you are being a very little man in the conversation. you ARE being arrogant. and if you were the devil you’d be doing a great job with the wolf in sheep’s clothing routine. but its the next part that was more important and i didn’t want to be overlooked…

why am i so emphatic about this, becuase you have power,,, alot of it… you can help many people, but you can also ruin them as well, which you seem to deem yourself incapable/inculpable of, and this is simply not the case… so thats why i sometimes get bent out of shape, becuase i see the potential of your words to be misused and become disastrous… and when i mean misused, i don’t mean the same way a pencil can be misused to kill someone. i mean the way pain medication can be misused to create a painful dependency. your pain medication does not come with the warning lable, “warning, may cause dependency” i’m adding it… (and its not addiction or addiction to you im talking about, just so it wouldn’t be misunderstood)

OK… are you in a manic episode today? Off your meds? (now THAT was an arrogant comment). I don’t know why out of no where you feel the need to attack me. What harm have I ever caused you. You see the world as you see it… and I’ll see it as I see it. You know NOTHING about me or my life. You know not the trials and tribulations I’ve lived through. I do not see the world as black and white, but unlike you… who, by your own admission, sees only shades of gray, I see a RAINBOW of bright colors. I have keen perspective of what is real. I never proclaimed that I am perfect, nor have I made those claims about my advise. What are you talking about not standing criticism? I take it from you and others all the time. I go to the Mods on occasion, but rarely. When I feel there is an injustice that I cannot deal with then I may seek advice or aid. I take criticism, I argue my point as calmly and clearly as possible… usually we must agree to disagree, and that’s OK with me. You are free to live your life in any way you see fit. Why all of a sudden you want me to change the way I live mine is beyond me. I’ve seen what you would probably call bad in this world… and I know I’ve seen good. Yes, they co-exist that is the natural way.. it doesn’t mean that I have to bow down to the bad and worship it. I only use the bad as my yardstick, the measure of how much good there can and WILL be!

wow… thats the most arrogant response i’ve ever received. and no, i don’t think you need my perspective of realism, you’d likely plug a bullet between your eyes if you had that, no i want you to get your own perspective of realism, because im not sure you have very much perspective at all… when you fancy yourself on a pristine pedestal so high above the lowly likes of myself, everything becomes 2 dimensional. black and white. and i understand that you see the black and seek to make things white, but we live in a gray world richard, you aren’t perfect and neither is your advice… if you can’t stand criticism maybe you should get a mod to silence me… and if you can’t save yourself the pompous quips (”i doubt it”) then maybe you should live the life of the darkside for a day. we ridicule people all day, but live a day in their lives and maybe then we’ll have some PERSPECTIVE on both the good and the bad that co-exist in this world…

I’m not preaching anything. I am a Christian. I’m also a Druid… I’m also a huge follower of the Buddhist tradition… and the Hindu tradition has some beautiful writing in the Upanishads… Confusionism is nice as is Taoism. I’m not really following you in terms of my AV. I am no Messiah, and I’m not sure how you could think that I might be… but rest assured I’m not. I am, a son of God… just like you. In terms of perspective, who’s realism am I to use? Yours? Perhaps I should have you review all my posts and replies to make sure they meet with YOUR approval, and your version of realism. To quote a line from one of my favorite plays (ironically, Jesus Christ Superstar), “We all have truths, are mine the same as yours?” I doubt it.
Bright blessings ~ Richard

that picture is the last straw… Rich… either you are preaching Christian (or a religion closely related) based views or you are building yourself up as the next messiah… unless you’re the son of god i beg you to give a realistic perspective along with your utopian advice.